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Citizens from more than 30 states petition federal government to secede
Have secession petitions become the latest trend in post-election angst?

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Melissa Breyer
Tue, Nov 13 2012 at 12:10 PM
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Amongst all the grumblings of "I’m moving to Canada if (insert candidate here) wins," a similar yet alternative sentiment has emerged from disgruntled voters: Let’s just secede from the union.
 
As of Tuesday morning, petitions for 34 states had been created at the White House petition site, We The People, asking to be granted leave from the nation and to create their own new governments. Petitions that reach 25,000 signatures receive a response from the Obama administration.
 
The first petition was started by "Michael E" of Slidell, La., and asked permission for Louisiana to secede. That petition now has more than 25,000 signatures. The majority of the petitions are lingering in the low thousands, while some of the more hard-core red states are reaching five digits' worth of John Hancocks.
 
The petition for Texas has gained the most signatures; you can practically see the ticker increase in counts when you visit the page. And it’s of little surprise – denizens of the Lone Star State have been wanting a divorce from the union since the state’s earliest days. And although most secession-seekers have been calm in their language, Peter Morrison, treasurer of the Hardin County (Texas) Republican Party, wrote a post-election newsletter calling on people to “contest every single inch of ground and delay the baby-murdering, tax-raising socialists at every opportunity.” Adding, “in due time, the maggots will have eaten every morsel of flesh off of the rotting corpse of the Republic, and therein lies our opportunity ... Why should Vermont and Texas live under the same government? Let each go her own way in peace, sign a free trade agreement among the states and we can avoid this gut-wrenching spectacle every four years." Nice.
 
Meanwhile, Texas Gov. Rick Perry’s office told The Dallas Morning News that he’s against the idea, as he “believes in the greatness of our union and nothing should be done to change it.” 
 
So do we need to start worrying about whether or not our state of choice may or may not become untethered from the union? It’s unfathomable that any of these requests would be granted; the U.S. Supreme Court ruled state secession unconstitutional in 1868. As Mythios Holt at The Blaze noted, “The odds of the American government granting any state permission to go its own way are on par with winning the lottery while getting hit by a meteor while seeing Bigfoot while finding gluten-free pizza that tastes like the real thing.” Yet, the right to petition the government is guaranteed by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution — and thus, the White House has to listen.
 
These are the states with petitions so far:
Arizona
Arkansas
Arkansas
California
Colorado
Delaware
Florida
Georgia
Indiana
Kansas
Kentucky
Louisiana
Michigan
Mississippi
Missouri
Montana
Nebraska
Nevada
New jersey
New York
North Carolina
North Dakota
Ohio
Oklahoma
Oklahoma
Oregon
Pennsylvania
South Carolina
South Dakota
Tennessee
Texas
Utah
West Virginia
Wyoming
 
On the flip side, for patriots who want to make a symbolic gesture of their own, there are two anti-secessionist petitions awaiting autographs: Deport Everyone That Signed A Petition To Withdraw Their State From The United States of America and Strip the Citizenship from Everyone who Signed a Petition to Secede and Exile Them. 
 
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Richard Bahr Apr 04 2013 at 2:14 PM

change the constitution the congress and president are doing that now to support there idea, so what the problem in adding some more nonsense to the constitution.

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Diane W Nov 13 2012 at 7:26 PM
OH MY GAWD! 25,000!???? What is that, like a fraction of 1% of the US citizens? This is a joke! If people hate this country so much, I suggest they move to Mexico. Because the ones who are pulling this prank wouldn't likely fare so well in Canada. What with their "socialized" medicine and legal gay marriage and large welfare state. Those kind of people need to be in the "smaller government" environment of Mexico, where drug lords rule the people. Go, one, go all. If you don't love the USA then get
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Ron Holland Nov 13 2012 at 7:05 PM

Secession petitions are good PR but bad politics. There is a way for states to legally and politically secede from the American union but it must be a state-by-state process established by constitutional secession conventions in each state. Read: http://thedailybell.com/28286/Ron-Holland-Secession-Petitions-Good-PR-Bu...

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bighowdytx Nov 13 2012 at 6:30 PM
From a true Texan: Secession of any state is ILLEGAL and has been since after the war between the states, AND was confirmed as such by SCOTUS over 150 years ago under secession/nullification. Conservative Justice Scalia recently noted so as well in a anecdotal discussion. Also, the gov of Texas and TX state govt don't support such an idea. The only thing that signing one of these "suggestion box" petitions will do is identify the signatories and potentially get them on some kind of watchlist.
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So be very careful with any of this wingnut stuff. And don't try to say that theconstitution allows secession, because it does not address this term at all.
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matronmedusa Nov 17 2012 at 3:20 AM

Very true. I've been searching high and low for the terms of secession, and all I can find is that the states wishing to secede will have to declare war.

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A MNN Poster Nov 13 2012 at 5:06 PM

Yes lets just strip native born U.S. Citizens of their citizenship. Also the right to secede is in the 1st amendment of the constitution you dips.

It's called free speech and should you wish to interfere with anyones right you are no worse than a dictator. It's a republic and we can do as we wish.

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Guest Nov 14 2012 at 10:39 AM

that's not true you have the right to petition not secede, the supreme court declared it unconstitutional to secede from the union in 1868

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Spo101 Nov 13 2012 at 4:11 PM

Traitors! LET THEM GO! Read blog post titled:
Secede PLEASE! A Declaration of Independence & a ...

on spoact.blogspot.c**

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Brandt Hardin Nov 13 2012 at 3:22 PM
The racism of yesteryear has come full circle in our county. The entire world embraced our choice of a black President four years ago and most nations of the world still support him. The fringe elements of Republican sect have crept through into the mainstream once again with conservative mouthpieces planting the seeds of hate. The only doubt lies here at home rooting from bigotry. Watch the white hands paint Obama in Blackface at http://dregstudiosart.blogspot.com/2012/10/bamboozling-obama.html
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JaxBass Nov 13 2012 at 2:36 PM
These petitions are pretty ridiculous and are founded on faulty claims... People need to realize that while the president has veto power and heads the executive branch, he is very much just a figurehead of the country. Citizens should recognize that Congress has most of the legislative power in the country and that the judicial branch has an underrated amount of clout in creating laws too. If the democrats had a majority in all of Congress and the judicial branch suddenly decided to turn very liberal,
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secession petitions might be understandable. Otherwise, the nation has spoken for who it wanted as president, and the vote totals weren't even close. Hell, Fox even admitted defeat before all the votes were done being counted. Get over yourselves people, you'll have another chance to vote in 4 years.
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Steve Nov 13 2012 at 2:18 PM

"Strip citizenship everyone who signed petition secede and exile them"

Wow! they must mean the non-leeches!

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