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Toronto's new green roof law a first for North America
Bylaw requires some new developments to devote almost 60% of roof space to vegetation.

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Michael d'Estries
Tue, Jun 23 2009 at 9:34 AM
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In a first for a North American city, Toronto recently passed a new law mandating "green" rooftops for all new developments. Any new construction with floor space of more than 2,000 square meters must devote between 20 and 60 percent of its roof to vegetation. The rule applies to residential, commercial, industrial and institutional structures.
 
As expected, developers are less than thrilled with the new mandatory rules — least of all that they come during an economic downturn. Some estimate that green roofs could add more than $177,000 to the cost of a project; not including the ongoing maintenance, replacement and repair costs. "I don't think anybody is warm and fuzzy about having a green roof bylaw impressed on them as a prescriptive method," one developer told Reuters.
 
Still, the benefits to the city in terms of energy savings and rainwater runoff management are seen as cost-effective in the long term. According to the organization Green Roofs for Healthy Cities, more than 3.1 million square feet of green roofs were installed in 2008, a growth rate of 35 percent over the previous year. Though Toronto may have the lead in proactive legislation, the city of Chicago retains the crown for having the most green roofs in North America at more than 600. Still, it should be interesting to see if our neighbors to the North can inspire some U.S. cities to follow their example.

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anonymous
Can't satisfy e... Jun 13 2012 at 4:06 PM

Yes it sucks that this can turn into a money grab for many levels, and extra cost for other levels. Big deal! At least it's pushing the topic, and related topics, into the forefront and not letting big business determine our future. Obviously many humans are ignorant and/or lazy, so active pursuit of things like this makes sense. If you want no government involvement in your lives, then why don't you just ask for anarchy?

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Michael Bradt Jan 09 2011 at 1:55 PM
I was born and raised in Toronto and have just turned 50. I love living in T.O and wouldn't change it for anything. I'm so pleased and excited this green roof law was passed. Thank you to all those you voted for it! The co-op I live in is right downtown, it has 3 buildings with 750 units and award winning gardens in between each building. Having said that, our gardens are beautiful, but they are not edible. Also, we do not have a roof top garden and not until just recently did we have a recycling
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program for kitchen waste. I'm happy to say we do now many older high rises are still not recycling 100%. There is always room for improvement. I am an avid gardener and living in a co-op in downtown Toronto for the past 18 years has enable me to have an edible garden on my balcony and rent another from the city. I grew-up here and played in many parks and by the lake. I do not remember any smog days or sunscreen in my youth but now I cover up with creams and hear about smog days all summer. These issues have become a major concern and unfortunately more of a way of life for many. The increase of smog days in southern Ontario/ Toronto and consequently an increase in smog related illnesses and deaths over the past few years is of great concern to me. To think that you can't or shouldn't leave your home because you might get sick or die from breathing the air outside is horrific. I have never seen such apathy by politicians and Torontonians to such a huge problem. This new green roof law will not change the cause of the smog day alerts or the need for sunscreen, but the more green spaces created, whether they be on the roof , empty parking lots or abandoned industrial spaces will always be a step in the right direction to help clean the air and lower the over all temperature of the city. Creating more allotment, community or personal gardens is growing in the city every year. More and more people are seeing the benefit(s) of growing your own food and creating more green space. To all those who think the green roof law is to much involvement by the government or to costly to developers, how can you put a price on fresh air? If Torontonians really believe and want the world to see that we truly are a city within a garden, then we are on the right path by passing this green roof law and any other laws that will help us succeed with growing our City Garden and as a result, breath easier. Doing something is better than nothing. The real cost is to our quality of life and breathing fresh air is truly priceless. I believe, if you think you can't change the world, change yourself! Thank you!
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Congratulations... Dec 20 2010 at 12:16 AM

Congratulation Toronto the city will be more greener and will help to prevent heat especially in the areas with many bulidings BUT WHAT ABOUT WHITE ROOFS ? IT IS THE CHEAPEST AND EFFICIENT SOLUTION TO REDUCE THE HEAT ..I THINK IT'S EVEN BETTER THAN SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY ON THE GREEN GARDENS AND THEIR MAINTENANCE ....

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Guest Apr 11 2012 at 5:17 PM

Yes white roofs help reduce local heat, green roofs not only reduce local heat, but they help maintain the water level. When there is a major downpour the city has to process that extra water and that costs money. Also when sewers overflow they go right into the lake. Green roofs will help solve this problem.

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Frank Nov 12 2010 at 6:53 PM

Maybe an idea like this could help reduce the terrible smog in larger cities like Toronto.

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KP Oct 06 2010 at 2:05 AM
well ... it would create more jobs and more business as far as gardening, fertilization, plant, and other like industries are concerned ... plus over the next few generations everything is becoming more environmentally friendly and more ethical and socially responsible companies will have a jump start on the competition which will soon be playing catch up since the up coming generation will soon expect them to do things like this instead of it being a bonus make the company look go .. it'll soon
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me mandatory to just meet consumer expectations
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fairfield Dec 09 2009 at 10:32 PM

Good idea or bad, I wonder about maintenance. Every lawn or garden I've ever seen needs care, watering, weeding, fertilizing or mowing or something. Even a quasi-wild field needs something, and these are bound to be only inches deep and not huge. Is this part of the deal? If it dies, you have to replant? What about no watering periods during droughts? Anyone know details from Toronto or Chicago or elsewhere?

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Sahra Jan 20 2011 at 1:17 AM

These gardens are for rooftops on new developments. I imagine in a condo the maintenance fees would go into your monthly condo fee.

I have lived in Toronto for 30 years and have never known it to have a drought. It's beside a giant freshwater lake.

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james Feb 12 2010 at 3:09 PM
Green roofs of this scale are far from traditional gardens. They are most often planted with xeric plants- plants that can tolerate occasional wet conditions but prefer it hot and dry. Additionally, the substrate is a soil less media, so that it does not invite rot, nor does it hold much water weight. General maintenance for an extensive green roof planted with sedums is once or twice yearly weeding, touch up, and possibly watering during an extended drought. Generally, green roofs have no irrigation.
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A good system might have some supplemental irrigation that could use recycled greywater, thereby saving the owner the cost of purchasing potable water, and the cost of greywater disposal. As with any construction, if it fails, the builder should be liable for fixing it, replacing, having it insured. I think that you will find that though the upfront costs are higher, the long term cost savings are huge.
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Guest Jul 07 2009 at 7:01 PM

Whatever the contribution is to water management, CO2 absorption, heat dissipation blah blah blah, green rooftops will be one way to make a city considerably less ugly. I always think the aesthetics of any manmade space is improved by the addition of plants. There's also the potential to make the space a place to go for people to relax and enjoy, even have a cafe there, maybe.

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Guest Jul 04 2009 at 10:08 AM
One might also look at this as just another quite reasonable building code requirement. Just as we require certain kinds of construction and land use to insure the public health and safety, this addresses real problems with heat islands and water runoff and any number of other issues that arise from insensitive construction. As to the whinging from the "All regulation is bad and this is so unfair to the poor developer, yadda, yadda, yadda" crowd....The alternative is to have the costs that result
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from failure to deal with water quality and runoff, heat buildup in the city, lower air quality and the like shifted from the building owner/operator/tenants to the rest ofthe community, or worse to suceeding generations. It becomes just another case of privatizing profit and socializing risk and cost. How is that "fair"? And while it goes to wider issues than zoning law, I am reminded of hearing, way back in the ancient 70s, a debate between a solar panel producer and an an oil industry representative. The oil guy, in full Texas drawl as I recall, made condescending remarks to the effect that solar was cute but it couldn't make it in (cue the trumpets and flags) "the market". The solar guy, a government contractor as I remember it, said (only slightly more politely than this) "Take away the oil depletion allowance and I'll kick your *ss". The point is that the we have tax and economic systems that favor certain groups and approaches. Typically these are impoed in response to certain time specific situations. Yet I rarely (never?) hear the advantaged complain of evil government intrusion when it helps them or calling for the advantage to be rescinded. Back to Toronto...this roof idea seems "market based". Everyone plays on a level playing field and those who can't or won't adapt will perish. Others will take their place. You'd think the anti- intervention types would enjoy the social darwinism aspect.
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Brian in Knoxville Jul 08 2009 at 10:31 AM

Very well said.

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Guest Jul 03 2009 at 8:23 PM

The only reason this had to be mandated is because developers weren't doing it by themselves already. Any architect/developer/engineer who's any good can clearly see that concrete doesn't absorb rain and therefore in a concrete city, there'll be run-off... so they should've already been putting things in place, such as green rooftops to sort this out. But they weren't. Now they have to.

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Guest Jul 03 2009 at 1:15 AM

I think that green roofing is a good idea (green-- including solar, possible small wind, etc projects) however, the goverenment mandating and getting into our lives even further is unnecessary and quite the opposite of what is needed.
If they want it, offer tax credits for doing it or offer some stipend to have it done. But ordering every new building to have it done will create cheap sloppy work resulting in damages and uncared for roofs and simply even more unhappy citizens.

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Jack Finley Jul 03 2009 at 12:19 AM
Forty years ago I lived in Hyde Park, Chicago, Which is Obama's other home. The community surrounds the U of Chicago and at that time contained a sizable number of Progressive folks whose roots came from 1920-30's leftist beginnings. I belonged to a thriving Co-Op super market and we also had a neighborhood weekly Co-Op Food Bank. We even had a Co-OP babysitting arrangement. There were also a few large Co-Op apartment buildings that had been in existence for a number of years. I belonged to Circle
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Pines Co-Op Camp near Kalamazoo and met there the finest and friendliest folks that I have ever known. I think that today we should think of reviving this sort of Cooperative Living style including growing our own food on our rooftops along with solar heating and other energy sharing-saving technology. Maybe it is time again for progressives to get together and form communal living communities and rediscover extended family life beyond our present cocooned isolated single unit existences. I would be interested in exchanging ideas with like minded individuals..
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Guest Jul 02 2009 at 12:11 PM

I hope that they would count solar (heat or power) or some other type of green project as part of the % and not just a roof with plants on it. it is always scares me when gov seems to force people into one product and not into a range of solutions so privet sector can find the best answer for the different people/buildings. An example, privet homes have solar hot water but office buildings have plants and a roof top park.

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CaptainScorpio Jul 07 2009 at 12:14 PM

If it's not right now flexible enough to allow green technologies other than plants, it will be made so in short order. That sort of thing makes lawmakers look really good.

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Guest Jul 02 2009 at 11:00 AM

Well.. in my city one of the mayors made it mandatory that every major development, as in shopping malls or sky scrappers, have to have a small park area. so similar to the roof idea but next to the building.

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wahdgfjasbkfk Jul 02 2009 at 5:01 AM

Wow! This is amazing!! Thanks for sharing this!

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Kendra Jul 01 2009 at 10:32 PM
The people who are complaining about this are ridiculous, as are all the developers. Green roofs can be expensive but they can also be very affordable. I recently did a project in my University course that looked at establishing a green wall on campus. I had to sift through a lot of information on green roofs and green walls to get my information and they are pretty cheap--100 per square METER of vegetation. Of course if you want exotic plants this will up the pricing. Also the benefits that exist
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from adding a green roof/wall into any building are ENORMOUS. They increase air quality, reduce heating/ac bills, provide new and adequate ecosystems for many insects that are facing possible extinction... especially bees. Bee are essential to producing food EVERYWHERE. I also think they should instill carbon taxes and cap n' trade as well Screw all you polluters-- not that I am innocent by any means but i am changing my ways.
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ME Jul 01 2009 at 3:43 PM
Well Canada as other countries in the world should start taking initiatives for a greener world... now it is not fair to have it as a law, since its very costly and to tell the truth not as beneficial as other green solution, such as solar panels or wind turbines. To tell the truth a combination of all is the most immediate solution we have. Canada has one of the biggest unpopulated land masses of the entire world. Toronto as it is has one of the most extensive green areas in North America for an
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urban city of its size, it is time to really think green and have real solutions to climate change. Personally I think is ridiculous. Why not subsidising solar panels or investing in wind power? Why not? Cause its not coming from the government's pocket rather the tax payer’s pockets. Why not planting more trees in blank land field property of the government that are pretty much useless and lifeless? Why not teaching our children about being environmentally friendly? Why not better subsidies for green automobiles? Think about it Mr mayor!!!
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Guest Jul 01 2009 at 3:24 PM

Maybe I am the only one in the whole world right now that thinks this but I don't care I don't think the goverment should be putting all these by-laws into effect at all I think that it is the responsbily of the buyer a new development to buy what they feel is environmentaly impacting if thats what they feel is better. I don't like the goverment pushing things like this on us

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femme diabolique Jul 01 2009 at 1:09 PM

How about making it optional with a substantial tax credit incentive for those who choose to participate? Will there be a rash of roofs collapsing on unsuspecting citizens in the future? Green roof weight + snow weight = trouble? Will there be government inspectors regulating if a roof is capable of sustaining the additional weight prior to compliance? I'm just askin' ...............

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Guest Jul 14 2009 at 12:54 PM

Loads are taking into account at the START of the design of a building, including green roof weight & snow. Following proper engineering rules and guidelines ensures all of our structures and buildings don't collapse. Inspectors are only responsible for ensuring the proper installation of the green roof as well as the rest of the entire building. Inspectors are present throughout the entire construction process already. I'm just sayin' ..............

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Ganni Jul 01 2009 at 4:58 AM

Looking down from a high building you realize how much roof space is unutilized. It can be profitably used for parking of cars, solar heaters, pv, roof gardens greenhouses and whatever.

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