A sense of mystery
We've come a long way since the days of believing that lightning bolts were the work of angry gods, but some natural events continue to mystify us — including black holes, supernovas, the Marfa lights, the Bermuda Triangle and the Taos Hum. Despite scientists' best efforts, there are many myths and legends surrounding unexplained natural events. Here are five events that continue to elude explanation. (Text: Jessica Knoblauch)
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Ok I got one question. We have space all around us. Think back when there was no matter. No earth no humans, animals, nothing. It was just empty space. So. What put that matter in its place where it is today? How did this matter get in the empty space? With all its advanced properties. How did the water get put in a way perfect for fish to live, Or how did Oxygen get made in a way for us to breathe? ETC ETC ETC all through out matter, Its advanced properties point to inteligent design. GOOD.... More
So. What put that God in its place where it is today? How did this God get in the empty space? Your question screams out to be asked of your weak answer.
Well, there is always the theory that states that there was no empty space.
Before there was matter in this universe, there was no universe. It didn't exist. The universe of "empty" space, was created at the moment that matter was created, by possibly budding off of another universe, which in turn budded off of another universe, and so on and so forth till the beginning of time. But where did the original come from? WIZARDS!!! No, but seriously. What if there was no "beginning" of time?.... More
You forgot to ad "yet" to the end of your title.
Your premise is that if science can't explain five things then God must exist. Does this then imply that a bigger God existed when we didn't understand tides, eclipses, magnetism or electricity.
Your evidence is that "God gave us his word the Holy Bible and in it contains everything we every need to know about heaven hell and how to get there even how to live "Christ like" on this sin cursed earth. Science is a gift of course it doesnt have all the answers only God has all the answers.... More
Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth. God does exist you cannot explain it any other way and to believe in something other then the Almighty God takes FAR! more faith, God gave us his word the Holy Bible and in it contains everything we every need to know about heaven hell and how to get there even how to live "Christ like" on this sin cursed earth. Science is a gift of course it doesnt have all the answers only God has all the answers and the more you study to.... More
The Bible was written by man after supposed stories were passed down by man. Since man is non perfect, exaggeration is very possible. There is nothing that says, just because it is in the Bible means it is 100% true... After all there are tons of things that were left out of the Bible.
I am not Christian but I am polytheistic and all I can say is that it is supposed to be based on faith not some word of someone who wanted to write down stories passed down. The Bible is just a work of.... More
how about the mystery of bermuda triangle ..???
Religion is a position on the divine based on faith. Atheism is a position on the divine based on faith. QED
Atheism can't be a position on the divine based on faith because Atheists lack faith. I would be religious if i could believe it. Religions offer peace of mind, community, motivation and answers to questions no one can answer. But because my mind draws conclusions from fact and every religion is here-say and fable it's difficult for me to listen to people speak about things which i know they cannot be certain of, such as the origins of our universe and the future of mankind. The faithful have.... More
actually, it takes as much faith to believe in Evolution or to believe there is "nothing out there" as is does to believe in God. You're putting your faith in the idea of there being nothing. You can't prove there is not a god, it is your belief. So yes, atheism takes faith also.
sorry, but the burden of proof is on the one making wildly unsubstantiated claims!
i don't believe the is a god because there is no proof. it is not a belief, but if you bring me proof i will examine it and weigh it carefully.
sorry, but the burden of proof is on the one making wildly unsubstantiated claims!
i don't believe the is a god because there is no proof. it is not a belief, but if you bring me proof i will examine it and weigh it carefully.
You say that it is difficult for you to listen to people speak about things which you know they cannot be certain of, such as the origins of our universe and the future of mankind.
But that is precisely what atheism does. It offers no true insights into the origins of the universe or where mankind is going - it just borrows from whatever is currently acceptable from science and then uses that. In the 18th and 19th century brought on board the idea that some races are superior to.... More
Science is interested in finding out the truth, not in speculating about matters it can never test. It goes with the evidence, no matter where it leads.
The weak position is refusing to modify one's position in the face of new evidence. Faith focuses only on "evidence" which appears to support its untestable "insights".
Atheism is neither a science, a philosophy or a religion. It is simply failure to believe in the existence of supernatural beings and events for which there is.... More
do you have any idea with what science cannot explain or if the bermuta triangle really exist?????????
Atheism is based on the premise that there is no divine creator and by default must believe the contrary view that life and the universe occurred spontaneously. There is not one single testable example of this anywhere in science. Yet there are billions of examples of creation. To believe in the former requires a huge leap of faith so much so that very few top scientists will state that there is no God, and as such Atheism falls within the spectrum of religion.
no, your premise is completely incorrect. atheism (or lack of belief) is not the starting point, but rather the end result of having looked at factual data and drawn the appropriate conclusion.
Absolutely, well said!
There are as many kinds of Religions as there are views on Atheism...Infinite. Because every individual person has their own perspective. I, for example, do not believe the universe just spontaneously appeared one day. E=Mc(squared) showed the relationship between mass and energy; that mass IS energy. and since energy cannot be created or destroyed, and mass cannot be destroyed, only converted into energy, I am forced to conclude that prior to the big bang, there was something here. We can't.... More
I have to agree. The laws of physics, as we know them, within this universe do not allow for the spontaneous creation of anything which opens the question to where did it all come from. The only logical conclusion I can reach is that the source is outside the universe.
There a good quote that goes "Never argue with a fool. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." It is all i could think of while reading these comments. I just never understand why atheists bother arguing with people of faith. Religious people will always point out how science can't explain everything or how it doesn't have all the answers. Well to quote the comedian Dara O' Brien "Of course science doesn't have all the answers, because if it did it would stop"..... More
The above quotes by Mecurian make sense. Physics as we know it can not account for spontaneous creation. So instead of offering a rational response Karl moans
"Religious people will always point out how science can't explain everything or how it doesn't have all the answers."
Well if science cannot explain it how does the average atheist account for his or her faith in the spontaneous creation of matter, considering that atheists are proud of their belief that their position.... More
I believe the "Average Athiest" doesn't necessarily have to pick one or the other. I believe most Athiest regardless of their scientific beliefs, believe either that they don't know how the universe works but they do know that man created God, not the other way around or they don't care how it happened they just know that it couldn't be as simple as a supernatural being putting the entire universe together in 7 days.
Side Note: Theist believe in spontaneous creation to a certain extent. God.... More
So if many Atheists "don't know how the universe work" or "they don't care how it happened" how can they say with any certainty that "man created God" or "just know that it couldn't be as simple as a supernatural being putting the entire universe together in 7 days"? Do they have some scientific evidence to back this up? Or is it all just thumbsuck.? Because to me it sounds a lot like faith.
As for theists believing in spontaneous creation - they don't. They believe the God always was -.... More
Atheism is faith that there is no God. Therefore atheism is a religion.
If lack of a belief in gods is a faith than so is lack of a belief in Santa. If failure to pray to a god for which there is no valid supporting evidence is a faith, then so is failure to write wish lists addressed to Santa or leave shed teeth for the Tooth Fairy.
Atheism is based on the well-supported fact that theists fail to adequately support their case, not on the unsupported belief (=faith) that they cannot.
Atheism is based on unprovable positions that requires faith ie. There is no creator, life is a result of a chemical accident, the universe just happened. Atheism is a religion.
Faith is believing something for which there is no valid evidence. Atheists see no reason to believe in something for which there is no valid evidence. That is reason, not faith.
Theists generally take the absolute dogmatic position: they are 100 percent certain that god exists. In the absence of conclusive evidence, that takes faith. Atheists generally agree that the chances of a god existing, while not zero, are so unlikely that it is not worth behaving as if one does. The only.... More
there are also some specific events which are very diffucult to take by camera. like thats -> http://www.herkesebendencay.com/2010/07/google-cevap-veriyor-0.html
I believe scientist have figured out that lightning is the product of polar opposite electrons coming in contact with one another along with the influence of particles entering the atmosphere from interstellar space, which causes this tremendous burst of energy. Thats a very vague description, but they have determined this presence of interstellar material due to the x ray and gamma ray emissions from lightning bolts, which could not be generated from anything in our atmosphere alone. Not a.... More
Without love, where would you be now?
Putting a Religion between a Man and his Gods is the laziest form of Atheism.
Xtianity has been corrupted in the most extreme ways via Constantine. Xtianty then called the original Xtians heretics and burned them and their books, we then entered a period called the Dark Ages. History has been rewriiten in Xtianity's favor, so to say to each their own is the way to go is not a good thing. The harm religion has done to the human race, and continues to do, is everyone's business. If you believe in god then you must surely want the truth about it. Religion does not offer.... More
Religion, that is where the hair is split. It's not about religion. Religion is a set of rules created by the Catholic Church in order to obtain taxes and money. History shows the major events in time where Jesus' Teachings have been corrupted by Man's selfishness instead of selflessness.
Today is Easter, a day celebrating Jesus conquering Death out of Love for us, EVERYONE, wether they believe in him or not He came to love and save them because everyone of us is guilty of something in.... More
Please don't even try to claim that "religion is a set of rules created by the Catholic Church". What?? No. And I'm glad for you that you are excited about your dogged beliefs that some chap a) existed and b) died for your sins which c) will prevent you from a horrible "afterlife". It must help your conscience. And as for the bit about him dying and loving us even if we don't believe...well, it only profits those who do believe so that statement is irrelevant.
Is not Athiestism a type of religion? There is a large group of people with similiar beliefs yes? So you by rejecting religion are rejcting yourselves? I am not sure but that is how it looks to me. But before you yell at me please read on.
Now I am christian, but I take all with a touch of salt. I find my own path, and decide myself. I beilive in God, that is my choice. If you don't fine. That is your choice. But religion has been changing slowly over time, even now there are sligth.... More
If atheism is a religion, than health is a disease. -Mark Twain.
How can the absence of religion - or belief/faith - be a religion. What you've said it completely illogical. Atheism is a lack of religious faith an disbelief in theism, it therefore cannot be a religion. Nice try.
It may nt be a religion but think about thins. this is a link to a picture of landscape..... http://www.interweb.in/attachments/pc-wallpapers/15152d1221050366-landsc...
Athiests THINK this happened by chance one day, Christians know a righteous wizard made it. point.... More
the only way i can think of atheism is like this: the meaning and the way people act are two different things. Atheism is text book non-religion. the way people act is not dissimilar to religion however, you have important concepts shared by a mass of like minded people (no god) important works quoted like scripture (the works of Dawkins, sometimes Darwin etc...). it doesnt mean your religious, but human nature does tend to repeat some of the same group behavior. shaky grounds for an argument,.... More
"Is not Athiestism a type of religion? "
I don't collect stamps.
Is not-collecting-stamps is a hobby??
If so, I guess we both have the same hobby.
I don't believe in Zeus.
Is not-believing-in-Zeus a religion??
If so, I guess we both have the same religion.
I don't believe is ghosts, goblins, or gods.
Is not-believing-in-ghosts-goblins-or-gods a religion?
If so, I guess we're both atheists. The only difference between us is that.... More
Of course not believing in something isn't a religion. Sometimes though, people can not believe in something so strongly that they constantly thump their non-bibles and rant at others with different beliefs than them. That's when it becomes about as close to a religion as you can get. And just as annoying.
Okay! I respect every individual's opinions, beliefs, and faiths. I even will support their belief in some aspects even if I may disagree. -Because you can't change someone's views on life nor should you, cause it is not your place to decide.
thanks for writing this.
The beauty of this world, is it's diversity. Everyone has the right to believe, what ever they choose. Yes, there are close-minded Atheists, as well as close-minded Christians. There are close-minded people all over the world, regardless of their religion. People are the way they are, and no one will change that, unless they want to change.
As alric3 put it, '... send them to happy death camps." I believe Hitler felt the same way.
I am not going to preach, it isn't my nature. All.... More
what anyone else believes? No one should care about such opinions. I say round up preachy atheists and christians and whatever other group insists that everyone should live their way and send them to happy death camps.
You may think I am being hypocritical but if you were paying attention you'd know I think you're an idiot if you care what I think.
Why bother writing anything if that's you mind set.
Utterly illogical Spock
I hope we can agree that this is all nonsense if we are to only criticize each other's emphatic remarks with infantile remarks. Can't we just wonder joyfully with peace of mind? Let your hands rest, allow yourself some concentration.
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