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John
Mar 15 2012 at 7:16 PM
Oh, by the way James, you were right, there are atheists in foxholes, all alone. Cause if I had been killed, fighting for you, at least I know where I was going afterward, an atheist has nowhere to go, right? I'd never have stared my foxhole with a man without faith.
James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil
May 18 2012 at 9:47 AM
As someone who has served and shed my blood for your right to be an idiot, I can state that atheists were doing the fighting while some theists were praying.
You have nowhere to go. You just want to believe you do.
What are you saying? If you were under fire and an atheist was with you, you'd have pushed him out to be killed? That tells me that you were never in a foxhole anyway. Or maybe deliberate murder of non-believers is fine with you? I would not be surprised if it were.
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a hypocrite and a liar is the foundation of your religion, isn't it?
keith.pinster
May 18 2012 at 2:11 PM
@Kevin - Your problem here, dear xian, is that you can claim any childish, nonsensical, gibberish that you want as truth. The problem you face with ration, adult - based conversations, such as this one, is that your delusional fairy tales hold no weight because there is absolutely no evidence to support them. So feel free preach your unsubstantiated fear-mongering all you want, but I can guarantee you will never get a rational, reasonable, thinking person to convert to your superstitions based
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on threatening them with fairy tales of devils and demons torturing us while you and your self-righteous, sadists buddies sit up on clouds laughing. We’ve been to the tops of the clouds and there is nothing there. The bible has been proven wrong time and again, with its hundreds of inconsistencies, contradictions, logical fallacies and flat out lies, so it means nothing to people who evaluate evidence in any way other than emotional. That is why you've wasted 80+ years - you were indoctrinated into your cult as a child and you never learned how to think your way out of it. If you *REALLY* examined your beliefs, you would find them to be as preposterous as those of us who can think for ourselves do. You’ve wasted that time going to a church that preaches fairy tales, you’ve wasted that time hating people simply because they don’t buy into the same superstition that you do, you’ve wasted time holding onto prejudices and bigotries because you feel justified that your “loving and caring” sky fairy *must* hold those same bigotries. And you’ve wasted time praying to a nonexistent fairy instead of doing.
James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil
May 18 2012 at 2:25 PM
The real problem here Keith, is that you cannot reason a person away from a position they did not reach through reason. Because they have invested so much time and resources into their delusions, they must continue to believe. If they don't they have to admit they've been snookered for decades.
As I say in my list of Universal Truths,"Man’s most precious possessions are his delusions. No power equals that of self-deception." (https://slrman.wordpress.com/2010/08/03/universal-truths/) A person
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will surrender their property, their careers, their family, and even their lives before their delusions. All religions are aware of this and depend upon it to keep the "faithful" in line.
keith.pinster
May 18 2012 at 11:40 AM
@Kevin - Oh, how so very xian of you! What do you think your precious saviour would think of the joy that you feel in your heart at the suffering of others? I really love that fact that you call yourself "moral" when you take such delight at the thought of other people being tortured for all of eternity because your "loving" and "caring" god managed to trick them into not believing in it. That really does show you for what you are: a petty, pathetic, self-absorbed, narsasistic, sadist, much
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like the god you worship. I'm sure you two will get along just fine.
James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil
May 18 2012 at 1:35 PM
Bingo! You've exactly nailed this smug, arrogant theists. They claim to be representatives of a kind, loving nature, "Hate the sin, but love the sinner" but in reality, they are hypocrites that rejoice at the thought of condemning people that are far more honest than they are to an eternity of punishment for that honesty.
It has become so pervasive in their attitudes and actions that the terms "theist" and "hypocrite" have become semantically equal.
Kevin
Mar 15 2012 at 7:07 PM
Well, when Keith and James are done tooting each others horn...(snore). If it isn't true about god then you guys can laugh and say I'm a loon that's live a moral, boring, Christian life and wasted my eighty or so years. But, if the bible is true? Then i've got eternity to laugh at you guys getting a pitchfork stuck in your burning bums. Nuff said!
James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil
May 18 2012 at 9:42 AM
Again, the absurd Pascal's Wager. So you're saying your god is so stupid that he'll be fooled by someone pretending to believe, "just in case" and condemn the moral, decent person simply because he refuses to accept ludicrous concepts?
The bible is a badly translated, politically edited collection of myths and lies. I can prove that. Can you prove it's true? Yes it does have some historically verifiable dates and places. Does that make any of the rest of it true?
You sneer and scoff because
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you have nothing substantial or provable to offer.
You live a "moral christian life"? How so? By judging others as you have do here? By relegating women to second-class status? By bashing and threatening gays, and non-believers when not actually harassing them physically and condemning them to hell?
Yes, you've wasted your years on religion when you could have been doing something useful.
John
Nov 28 2010 at 8:23 PM
These comments are priceless, both as entertainment and as compelling evidence just how far man has fallen.
Sylvie
Oct 24 2010 at 11:37 AM
When you know trouble is coming, the sanest thing to do is to prepare for it. Why are the people who take preventative action labeled as loonies? Is it really better to just believe that "someone" will come to help you when you need it? Isn't that what the people in the Superdome in N.O. thought? How did that work out for them? I'm getting chickens and stocking my pantry and my medicine cabinet. No down side to it, really.
Keith
Oct 24 2010 at 11:32 PM
I agree. One big problem that people have is that they have the mentality that supplies are only a short drive away. Stocking up and rotating supplies is just good common sense for everything from a major disaster to being unemployed. As you say, no downside except a little extra effort.
James Smith
Oct 24 2010 at 5:02 PM
You are correct. Maybe that's why there ARE theists in foxholes. They are busy digging them and preparing for trouble with practical, realistic action instead of wasting everyone's time praying.
Keith
Oct 21 2010 at 3:24 PM
Yes, the xian god is the same god that the jews and muslims worship. The same false sky-fairy that does nothing to add to the value of the human race, but detracts so very much. The same imaginary being that causes hate, prejudice, and war. Yep, that's the guy!
Elizabeth
Jan 29 2011 at 7:46 PM
Hate, prejudice, and war are all things human do to each other, regardless of their religious beliefs :P
Keith
Jan 29 2011 at 9:50 PM
The problem with religion is that it makes those acceptable. If not for religion, people are completely offended by those things. But if your religion teaches that other races are subhuman, or another person nature makes them subhuman, than those religious people have no problem treating those people as subhuman.
Think of slavery in this country. We find it horrifying now, but there was a time, when it was completely acceptable by the xian religion, that people felt justified to the point of waging
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a war to retain the right to keep slaves. And that same religion causes people to continue holding those prejudices. And then turn right around and call themselves "loving" and "caring". Amazing how religion not only allows but encourages hypocrisy.
James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil
Jan 29 2011 at 7:57 PM
That's right. But it's religion that drives those things. Bad people will always do bad things but it takes religion for good people to do bad things.
Most of the problems of the world are, and always have been caused by religion. Currently, think of Northern Ireland and the Middle east. Historically, think of the Crusades, the Inquisition, and the dark ages.
Humanity will never be truly free until the black yoke of religion is lifted by the clear light of truth and rational thinking.
James Smith
Oct 21 2010 at 10:15 AM
Maybe because, deep down, he knows his god is a scam and he is too cowardly to face the truth? Perhaps that is why theists never truly engage in a debate with rational people. They know they have no facts, no proof, nothing except the lies they have had brainwashed into them.
James Smith
Oct 15 2010 at 8:32 PM
Unfortunately, you are correct on both counts. I think a single nuke would not take out the power for the entire country, just all of the east or west coasts depending. hat would be bad enough, right?
You're also right about the solar storm, and we are due for another really big one withing the next 28 months. So you are maybe more prescient than you know.
Burt Grummer
Oct 14 2010 at 11:55 PM
Reminds me of the good O'll days when all I had was a czech gass mask, case of MRE's and a 12ga....
Ehskeh-Soundcloud
Oct 14 2010 at 6:00 PM
Why take it so seriously when it's just an article that doesn't mention God or war?
ChristLife
Sep 26 2010 at 11:16 AM
These things might work for world war 3 which surely will be nuclear and infrared. But do you really think that you can hide from God. The bible already prophesies that men would try to hide in cracks in the ground and people will flee to the mountains. You cant hide from God's judgment but you can accept him as you Saviour and LORD.
Keith
Oct 19 2010 at 1:35 PM
You would see that it is so full of contradictions, mistranslations, and absurdities that it couldn't possibly be true. Yes, every once in a while a "prophecy" will come true, but apart from being few and far between, there is no better chance than one of Nostradamus' prophecies coming true. And usually you have to *really* manipulate the language to mold it into some event.
How many times does the bible have to be proved wrong before the deluded populous will come to their senses and stop thinking
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some make believe, all powerful sky fairy had anything to do with it?
James Smith
Oct 19 2010 at 1:58 PM
Here are just a few failed biblical "prophesies". Let's not expect any rational replies though. That would be irrational. ROFLMAO
Christians claim that the Bible has hundreds of fulfilled prophecies, and is proof of its divine inspiration. In actuality, these so called fulfilled prophecies failed, were false or weren't prophecies at all. Many of these prophecies are so vague, they can be attributed to different events. It's also a fact that the Bible was written many years after these presumed
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prophecies and their "fulfillment" took place. It's also fair to mention that nowhere in the Bible will you find countries such as the United States, Russia, China, Korea, Great Britain prophesied. Christians will tell you that they are, if you know how to "interpret" (distort) the Bible.
Genesis 26:4 And I will make thy seed to multiply as the stars of heaven, and will give unto thy seed all these countries; and in thy seed shall all the nations of the earth be blessed.
Here God tells Isaac that his descendents (Hebrews) will be as numerous as the stars. Considering the number of stars there are in the universe, that would have to be on the order of 10 to the 20th Jewish people.
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.
Christians say that this verse is a prophecy of Jesus' birth to a virgin. There are a couple problems with this prophecy...First, virgin in this verse is a mistranslation of the Hebrew word "almah", which actually means "young woman". A young woman is not necessarily a virgin. "Bethulah" would have been the correct word to use if the author meant virgin. Second, nowhere in the New Testament is Jesus referred to as Immanuel.
Isaiah 17:1 The burden of Damascus. Behold, Damascus is taken away from being a city, and it shall be a ruinous heap.
Damascus is still inhabited today with over a million people, and hardly a ruinous heap.
Isaiah 19:4-5 And the Egyptians will I give over into the hand of a cruel lord; and a fierce king shall rule over them, saith the Lord, the LORD of hosts. And the waters shall fail from the sea, and the river shall be wasted and dried up.
The river mentioned here is the Nile. The Nile is still one of Egypt's greatest natural resources.
Isaiah 19:18 In that day shall five cities in the land of Egypt speak the language of Canaan, and swear to the LORD of hosts; one shall be called, The city of destruction.
The Canaanite language has never been spoken in Egypt, and is now extinct.
Isaiah 52:1 Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O Jerusalem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.
There are uncircumcised people living in Jerusalem even today.
Ezekiel 29:10-11 Behold, therefore I am against thee, and against thy rivers, and I will make the land of Egypt utterly waste and desolate, from the tower of Syene even unto the border of Ethiopia. No foot of man shall pass through it, nor foot of beast shall pass through it, neither shall it be inhabited forty years.
Never in its long history has Egypt ever been uninhabited for forty years.
Amos 9:15 And I will plant them upon their land, and they shall no more be pulled up out of their land which I have given them, saith the LORD thy God.
Many times, Jews have been pulled up out of their land. The ownership of their land is still being fought for.
Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter into the city a day's journey, and he cried, and said, Yet forty days, and Nineveh shall be overthrown.
Nineveh was never overthrown. Why? Because God changed his mind in verse 3:10, despite what Malachi 3:6, Numbers 23:19 and Ezekiel 24:14 says about God never changing his mind.
Jonah 3:10 And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Zechariah 11:12 And I said unto them, If ye think good, give me my price; and if not, forbear. So they weighed for my price thirty pieces of silver.
Christians say that this prophecy is was fulfilled when Judas received 30 pieces of silver for betraying Jesus. Matthew 27:9 recites this verse, but incorrectly credits Jeremiah with the prophecy.
Matthew 1:22-23 Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, God with us.
Again, Jesus is never referred to as Emmanuel (Immanuel).
Matthew 2:23 And he came and dwelt in a city called Nazareth: that it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophets, He shall be called a Nazarene.
Nowhere in the Old Testament is such a prophecy found, so how could such a one be fulfilled?
Matthew 12:5 Or have ye not read in the law, how that on the sabbath days the priests in the temple profane the sabbath, and are blameless?
There is no passage in the Old Testament that can be attributed to what Jesus is saying here.
Matthew 24:34 Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
Jesus states that all the signs marking the end of the world in Matthew 24 would be fulfilled before his generation ended. That generation ended 2000 years ago, and the world has not come to an end, neither has all those signs been fulfilled.
Matthew 27:9 Then was fulfilled that which was spoken by Jeremy the prophet, saying, And they took the thirty pieces of silver, the price of him that was valued, whom they of the children of Israel did value.
This prophecy was never spoken by Jeremiah.
Matthew 26:64 Jesus saith unto him, Thou hast said: nevertheless I say unto you, Hereafter shall ye see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.
Jesus tells the high priest that he would see his second coming. The high priest is long dead, and Jesus hasn't returned yet.
Throughout the New Testament, the end of the world is prophesied as being very near, at hand, to be witnessed by those living at the time. Paul often told the people he preached to that they would be witnesses to Jesus' second coming. They are all long gone.
Keith
Oct 19 2010 at 7:09 PM
Isn't it absolutely amazing how generations and millions of people just completely ignore all the obviously wrong, completely preposterous, contradictory crap that fills the bible? And not only believe, but actually get incensed when someone actually has the audacity to question their delusions. Blows your mind that people can be that moronic.
James Smith
Oct 19 2010 at 7:26 PM
When you do point out the facts, you "are not showing proper respect". How anything that was founded upon a lie and has espoused lies and ignorance from then until now deserves respect is something that seems to escape this simple-minded atheist.
I am sure some theist will explain it to me in terms so clear and simple we will all wonder how we could miss such brilliant logic and obvious facts. (Sarcasm icon badly needed here)
James Smith
Oct 19 2010 at 1:21 PM
If you expect any rational people to believe anything in that badly-translated collection of bronze-age fables and lies created by near-savages, you must be even more deluded than you sound.
Try thinking for yourself for a change. I t may hurt a bit at first as you have to give up the brainwashing you've had all your life, but, "The truth shall make you free."
James Smith
Oct 15 2010 at 8:41 PM
People would actually read the bible in its entirety, they would realize what a bunch of badly-translated bronze-age fables they are. Then perhaps more people would start to realize that it's all a scam and start to behave rationally.
Michael G.
Sep 14 2010 at 11:42 AM
If people would simply read 2Peter3:10 that will tell what will happen. "But the day of the Lord will come like a thief. The heavens will disappear with a roar; the elements will be destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare." It won't do any good to buy your head in the sand, or anywhere else for that matter.
Keith
Oct 15 2010 at 7:17 PM
I'd read Little Red Riding Hood. It's MUCH easier to understand and just about as useful. And at least most people understand it is nothing but a story. Sounds like you take your delusion seriously.
Keith
Oct 15 2010 at 7:17 PM
I'd real Little Red Riding Hood. It's MUCH easier to understand and just about as useful. And at least most people understand it is nothing but a story. Sounds like you take your delusion seriously.
George Taylor
Sep 12 2010 at 12:13 AM
You maniacs! You blew it up! Damn you. God damn you all to hell!"
James Smith
Oct 15 2010 at 2:45 PM
Wasn't that from the original Planet of the Apes? It was on here a couple of nights ago but I didn't get to see it.
Keith
Oct 19 2010 at 11:54 AM
Yes, at the very end when Heston saw the Statue of Liberty and realized that he had traveled in time instead of space. HI-larious!
James Smith João Pessoa, Brazil
Jan 02 2012 at 1:21 PM
Thanks for the feedback. Even though I haven't seen the movie for years,e line was memorable.
Keith
Oct 19 2010 at 1:17 PM
LOL Maybe if we ask our fairy god-mother to protect us, that will help. LMAO
Caroline
Sep 11 2010 at 11:03 PM
bombshelters.com - survival condos for 100's of people for up to 5 years
Steve
Sep 10 2010 at 11:45 PM
If you really want to go somewhere that is so off the track, no one knows about it, you need to go to the Yaak in Northwestern Montana. People go in, and don't always come back out, Even law enforcement tries to keep their presence to a once a week thing.
Larry Sheldon
Sep 10 2010 at 9:34 PM
No mention of the Bell System Harden Coax Route and its operating centers.
Odd.
H
Sep 10 2010 at 9:14 PM
#10 is a good way to get shot or kicked out. If you are planning to show up and mooch off of someone's hard earned preparations, bring at least a 3 month supply, tools, and a good attitude towards working.
Parasites are not welcome anywhere.
Keith
Oct 19 2010 at 12:02 PM
Actually, it doesn't say anything about mooching off of your neighbor. It specifically says that you should get to know that person now, help them out, basically become part of the solution, instead of waiting until the event and being part of the problem.
snuffmuffler
Aug 30 2010 at 3:11 PM
Eh, no thanks sometimes I kinda wanna die.I hope a the dam missile hits me in the head,
Earnán
Sep 10 2010 at 9:57 PM
A fistful of sleeping pills, a plastic bag and some duct-tape can give you want you want.
With far less inconvenience to your neighbors.
karen
Aug 30 2010 at 2:13 PM
I dont really think most of us have the big bucks to do all this and would be fired upon if we tried to get to some of these places. I would rather go with all my friends to the ranch in the sky than stay here.
Hannah Z
Aug 15 2010 at 7:34 PM
In the past we built the Tower of Babylon , in the 21st century we're building Cellar(s) of Babylon. Tssk!
Your crazy neighbor's house
With thousands of people preparing for the apocalypse worldwide, the odds are good that you live near one of them. You probably saw him digging a well in the backyard, you might have noticed that he spends a lot of time in that shed, maybe you caught a glimpse of his arsenal when you borrowed a cup of sugar. Perhaps he's even invited you to an American Preppers meeting or tried to persuade you to invest in gold or buy survival seeds.
It doesn't matter how you identify the suburban survivalist — what's important is that you befriend him. Strike up a conversation about affordable semiautomatic weapons, offer to help him build that 15-foot electric fence, make biodesiel together. This man isn't crazy — he's just prepared. Bond with him, learn his ways, and maybe on Dec. 21, 2012, you'll have a safe place to go when the sky starts falling.
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