Oil and the Falklands: How Argentina can win the argument
The British have announced they will explore for oil in the Falkland Islands which could pose a huge threat to some of Earth's richest marine habitats.
FALKLAND MARINE LIFE: Eared seals on the Peninsula Valdes. (Photo: Mannheim Reinhard Jahn/Wikimedia Commons)
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Speak softly, and carry a big stick. No UK government will hand over the Falklands - to do so would cripple their chances of winning any election, for the UK is notoriously touchy about matters such as these. So I guess that leaves the Ultima Ratio Regum - the Last Argument of Kings.
Kirschner needs to grow some balls, and back down, or else let the wolf pack of it's chains.
Enter your comments hereArgentina does not and never did own the Falkland Islands, but these macho-men cannot accept that.Reading these pages and others is hugely entertaining and sometimes absolutely hillarious when l read the completely illogical arguments the argentinians put up. lf they say they're entitled to spain's leavings then why don't they claim all of south america(except Brazil of course)and also Mexico and the Philippines too? They were all under Spanish rule at one time. If.... More
You pose a very logical argument, and I thank you for pointing out the long tradition of preservation of marine habitats in Argentina. I think that it is only a matter of time before this becomes a part of Argentina's diplomatic attack. Unfortunately, the current president is only interested in winning political points.
I agree with you, the damage to England's self-professed "green" leadership will be irreparable. When the country (the UK) is seeking to build formidable alternative.... More
you are very uneducated so i'll make it brief president Obama is in charge of the United States not the United Kingdom so it does'nt really matter what any of them think they mean nothing to the UK and can do nothing
Shame on you! Your commentary is so far biased that it is totally untenable. You totally fail to take into account any of the falkland islander's own perspectives regarding sovereignty or any mention of falkland-based research. The people that live their lives on these inhospitable islands are commanders of their own domain.
Argentinian claims were false in the early 80s and are false today. Stop perpetuating war with your petty bickering
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Never have I read such nonsense on a matter that supersedes mere wildlife conservation. You are implying that the right of self determination held by the Falkland islanders is lesser than ensuring good photographic shots of wildlife?! You are an imbecile for even hinting at this!
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By the writer's logic, the Channel islands should be french and the Faroes british!And who gets Alaska?
I take huge offence with this article, seeing as I was born, raised and still live in the Falklands. To just give the Falklands to a country that wants to colonise us, a country that whats to country us against our wishes is inhuman. The people of the Falklands have human rights as much as anyone else on thye planet. And to say the British is exploring for oil in the Falklands is factually incorrect. The Falkland Islands Government issued the licences for sale, and British and an Australian.... More
I´m Argentinian and personally I don´t give a damn about the islands, just feel sorry for the amount of lives lost in that stupid conflict. We have a huge land, several times bigger than those blocks of frozen stone and with a lot of available resources. We have from glaciers to jungles and forests, a vast land with many different climates and ecosystems. If you use common sense and check some books and excercise your brain, you´ll realize who is really a colony in south american.... More
A Ustedes los isleños le hacen creer que en Argentina pretendemos una Colonia? la verdad me da lastima como manipulan sus mentes. A los 20 Argentinos que expulsaron de las Islas en 1833, incluyendo la Familia VERNET, nadie le hablo de autodeterminacion¡¡ a los de las Islas Chagos Tampoco.
So where something is determines who owns it? By that token would the article writer mind if we took ireland back - apparently it doesn't matter that the people there are irish, because ireland is geographically close to us it should belong to us. moron.
By your logic, because Britain is joined to France it means France should 'own' it Please, stop bleating and get into the real world. The people that LIVE in the Falklands are the only ones with a right to say what they desire and if that's to be British then so be it, enshried in UN law and that's final. The islands weren't even discovered by any Argentinian as they did not even exist as a nation when found (by a Brit coincidentally). The Falkland Islands were first sighted by English.... More
In 1520, Esteban Gómez of the San Antonio, one of the captains in the expedition of Magellan, deserted this enterprise and encountered several islands, which members of his crew called "Islas de Sansón y de los Patos" ("Islands of Samson and the Ducks"). Although these islands were the Jason Islands, a group northwest of West Falkland, the names "Islas de Sansón" (or "San Antón", "San Son", and "Ascensión") were used for the Falklands on Spanish maps during this period.
Argentina isn't opposed to oil exploration near the Falklands, they're opposed to somebody doing it aside from them.
theve just agreed to let repsol a spanish company drill in their waters so saying that to us would just be double standards unluky haha
OK. So you'll let Exxon drill right off the coast of England, without asking permission to the UK and without paying you any royalties for the extracted oil? Because that's what the British company operating in the Malvinas/Falklands basin is doing.
Repsol/YPF is a registered company in Argentina, has the relevant permissions to drill in the Argentinian platform (and inside Argentinian territorial waters, outside the waters in dispute) and pays the corresponding taxes and royalties for.... More
No company is going to drill in the Argentinian EEZ (economic exclusion zone). The drilling will take place at a distance much greater than 200nautical miles from Argentina.
No company is going to drill in the Argentinian EEZ (economic exclusion zone). The drilling will take place at a distance much greater than 200nautical miles from Argentina.
obviously you have not been on the falklands islands goverment website they are given out licenses etc to exploit in area and do take royalties etc so you just made a retarded comment
Oh, great, going down the name calling road. I wont' follow you.
The problem is not if they have permission given by the islanders, I know they have. The problem is that Argentina doesn't recognizes the sovereignty of the UK over that area. From the point of view of Argentina, that drilling is not legal. Repsol/YPF, on the other hand, is going to drill in waters that are recognized both by Argentina and the UK as territorial waters of Argentina. My point was only that Repsol drilling and.... More
Treaty of Utrecht? Why not go back to the Treaty of Tordesillas? Using this line of reasoning, Britain should return Canada to France, the US should return Florida to Spain and Argentina should return Formosa province to Paraguay, just to name a few examples. Yet, I don't see Argentina bending over backwards to restore the land they took from Paraguay by conquest in 1870. It's likely de Kirchner would argue that the residents wish to remain Argentinian after so many years. Sound.... More
The important thing here is the recognition status of the territories. Canada was recognised by France as an independent country, Spain recognizes Florida as part of the US, and Paraguay signed a peace treaty handing over Formosa to Argentina. You can argue about the situation in which those three treaties where signed, but they are there and are legally binding. The last legal treaty regarding Malvinas/Falklands status is effectively the Treaty of Utretch and the UK recognition of Argentina.... More
A fact often dismissed by the British is that the 1713 Treaty of Utrecht signed by the UK and Spain (among other European powers), gave Spain continued control of her colonies in the Americas, including all adjacent islands. Simply put, the UK gave up any claims to the Malvinas/Falklands Islands to Spain by signed treaty. The islands then became part of Spain's Viceroyalty of the Rio de la Plata. When Argentina declared independence from Spain and became The United Provinces of the Rio de la.... More
If what your saying is true then why have the spanish stole minorca back with french help as they ceded it to us in that same treaty because not everyone follows it also 1/4 of france was ceded to the uk hundreds of years ago but we where only given the channel islands explain how this fair? and tell me you have a point also britain found the islands and first to land before spain even new they where there and inhabited first so you chat complete rubbish the world dosent care for papers cry all.... More
They have authorised Spain t start drilling
Fantastic, using your logic France should belong to the UK.
Just because Europeans colonised Argentina does not mean they also own everything else nearby.
-"It makes about as much sense for the Falklands to be British as for the Outer Hebrides to be Argentinian."
So I suppose you believe Curacao should be Venezualan instead of Dutch? And that the French should hand over French Guyana to Brazil? Perhaps the Bahamas should be American too?
The British decision to start looking for oil around the Falklands is foolish on a number of levels."
I really never expected anyone to make the mistake of mixing science with.... More
And your deep knowledge of Argentinian internal politics comes from...? Before making such kind of comments you should check a little bit better your info. Last time I checked:
- Argentinian claims on Malvinas (Falklands for Europe) are a state policy, and it's supported by every govern and every party since, well, 1833. It had its ups and downs in time, but the UK pushing for unilateral oil exploration is the kind of things that will always bring it right to the surface again. If you.... More
And last time I checked:
-Kirschner's approval ratings currently stand at around 28%. Are you denying that the sudden nationalist card has nothing at all to do with the fact the up and coming elections in 2011. Is there anything incorrect there? Such knowledge hardly requites deep knowledge of Argentinian internal politics, does it? Please, before dismissing someone's post in a patronising manner perhaps do some research of your own?
-I don't think anyone here denies that.... More
"Kirchner's approval ratings currently stand at around 28%"
Right. Brown's approval is not much better. His answers to this problem are also just nationalistic moves?
"Are you denying that the sudden nationalist card has nothing at all to do with the fact the up and coming elections in 2011"
Yes. It has to do with the sudden fact that a British company starts to drill in the area. If they had started in 2007, in the peak of their popularity, the answer would have been the.... More
@guille2306 excellent response. One wonders how Brazil will feel once Britain begins serious efforts to extract oil. It is a foolish decision and a huge miscalculation, it's as though Brown's government is living in the 1970's. I hope no one looks to the U.S. for support on this, because it will not be there.
Well, it seems we still have brains in our country! Excellent reply.




























