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Baked goods outlawed at bake sales
New York City schools say no to zucchini bread but yes to Doritos for fundraising.
Thu, Mar 04 2010 at 2:11 PM
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I’ve been reading a lot of stupid lately. Last week, our home blogger Matt wrote about an Orange County, California, couple who could get sent to jail for planting a drought-tolerant garden on their lawn instead of water-sucking grass. Stupid.
 
The other day, a tweet pointed me to a piece about the city of Miami possibly banning feeding the homeless unless you have training. They don’t want amateurs giving “up part of their lunch to help someone they meet on the street.” Stupid.
 
Today, I read that New York City has banned the sales of baked goods at school fund-raising bake sales. The reason? The portion and nutrition size can’t be controlled. Okay, I kind of get that. Here’s what I don’t get. In addition to fruit and vegetables being allowed at bake sales, 27 specific packaged items have been approved including some varieties of Doritos, Frosted Brown Sugar Cinnamon Pop-Tarts and a few varieties of granola bars.
 
There’s no rule, however, that says a student can’t buy two packages of Doritos or five or six. And before you think kids won’t do that, think again. I have been amazed when working my obligatory time at the Little League Field snack shop at how many times the same kid will visit. There have been many times I’ve seen a child buy several bags of snacks and three, four, even five sodas in a two-hour period. I don’t know where they get the money, but they have it and they spend it liberally. I’ve often joked that I feel like I should get arrested for child abuse for how much junk I hand out during my turn.
 
Anyone who thinks that banning brownies or zucchini bread from a baked sale and selling portion-controlled pre-packaged snacks is going to help anyone but the processed food manufacturers is kidding himself. The intention behind banning foods with portions that can't be controlled may be good, but allowing pre-packaged junk full of chemicals and dyes and little to no nutrition in their place is just stupid.
 
You know what else is stupid? This takes kids completely out of the loop when it comes to these "bake sales." (I now need to put the term in quotes because it doesn't resemble an actual bake sale.) Kids are no longer able to actually participate in the food-making process. They can't beat the brownie mix or ice the cupcakes. You know what else they can't do? Drive themselves to the big box store which is where parents are going to have to go to buy large quantities of these pre-approved snacks. It teaches kids that food is something to be bought pre-made, not prepared together with family in the kitchen. Stupid.
 
I’m going to go bang my head against a wall now. Maybe I can knock the stupid out. 

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Alan May 24 2010 at 4:40 PM

agree absolutely on the danger of taking the kids out of the loop. Food preparation and sharing are basic social actions - where people care for each other. Home made food is not dangerous! It is as American as apple pie.

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sixsmiles6 Apr 02 2010 at 5:20 PM

You told it like it is, no beating around the bush. "Stupid." Yep, those are some great examples of stupid.

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Josh Mar 09 2010 at 5:49 PM

I have read the posts concerning the fear of "what is the baked goods" concerning Food Allergies- You need check out the following website for a Food Allergy-Band: www.assureproducts.com They have bands for kids with a Nut, Dairy, or Food Allergy- my son loves it, and it provides assureance for me when he is at school.

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Lay Mar 08 2010 at 12:15 PM

Sorry to jump on the allergy band wagon but I have the opposite problem.
My son is allergic to MSG, do you know how many pre-packaged things have MSG in them. Home baked goods would be sooooo much easier as very few people add MSG to the food they make.

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Caloricious Dec 25 2010 at 1:17 PM

You can go to caloricious.com and search for foods with msg.

You can search for "snacks with msg" or "prepared foods with msg" to view which pre-packaged foods have MSG

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Mo Mar 08 2010 at 10:31 AM

When the article is CLEARLY stating that the ban has to do with uncontrolled portion sizes and nutritional content, not allergies. That being said, it's still absolutely ridiculous to ban baked goods at a "bake" sale. I'd rather have my kid buy 5 slices of zucchini bread than 1 bag of over-processed Doritos.

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Guest Mar 08 2010 at 9:13 AM
Sorry to hear little Johnny is allergic to foods the rest of us enjoy - best you just keep him home in a bubble. I don't remember a single kind as I was going up who had a life-threatening food allergy (bees, yes; food, no). What changed that made this a critical issue to the point where we have to treat Aunt Sally's banana bread the same way we treat cigarettes? Bad genes? Bad rearing? Oh, and if we are going to start banning items in public for allergy's sake, I'd like to add women's perfume to
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the list. Makes me gag.
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Tara Mar 08 2010 at 2:18 AM
Make the bake sales be about choice. You could go to the store and get relatively healthy pre-packaged snacks, or you could make something at home, if you make it at home, you have to have a list of ingredients on whatever you wrap it in. That way allergies would be less of an issue and you could judge better the wholesomeness of the goodies, so if someone's mother doesn't want them eating all junk, they could have a better idea of which snacks at the sale were better or worse. Then at least the
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rest of us could enjoy a sinfully delicious snack!
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Chel Mar 08 2010 at 2:16 AM
My son's school has worked out how to try and avoid the allergy problem in home baked goods. At his school each person who donates a baked good MUST put the ingredients on a sticker attached to the package or it isn't sold. Another school kept up posters of children who were anaphylactic and what to do if they ingest someones food. The article said the ban had nothing to do with allergies anyway. I'm not so sure they haven't put in the ban because no one knows how to cook anymore and it was a
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good excuse to sell prepacked stuff instead of hunting down the 1 parent that actually knows how to cook...
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Pepe Mar 08 2010 at 12:15 PM

How about you take personal responsibility and teach your kid personal responsibility and you just don't buy the stuff.

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Tara Mar 08 2010 at 2:21 AM

to get a box of brownie mix and whip it up. It's still good, but you'll find there are those of us out there who can make any cookie from scratch along with pies and cheesecakes, etc. I highly doubt it has anything to do with people's laziness and ignorance in the kitchen.

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Debra Legg Mar 06 2010 at 11:18 AM
"However, this decision to ban the baked goods has nothing to do with allergies." Banning home-baking goods actually prohibits my food-allergic child from participating, so please stop blaming us. Most of the bans these days have more to do with nutritional guidelines than allergies. Oh, except for one of the early ones in a state that actually cited potential contamination from meth makers as a reason for its ban. Personally, I'd almost trust the meth dealer more than many manufacturers anyway.
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My kid's never accidentally ingested meth. He has, however, accidentally ingested peanut from an improper labeled Special K bar.
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Aaron F Mar 08 2010 at 1:43 AM
So your son has an allergy to something. Make sure he knows, knows how to ask, and knows when not to get near activities or events that could cause an issue. Bake sales are typically done to raise funds for schools or organizations. I've not once been to a school where a bake sale was done during school hours (when they are in class) and without adult supervision. So, make sure your son asks if it contains what he is allergic to from the person selling it or ask yourself. That is what any responsible
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parent would do. They would not however complain and make a public issue out of preventing it just so they don't have to take the time to not teach their children. I just don't get the way of thinking.
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Debra Legg Mar 11 2010 at 6:35 PM

He's 6. He's been able to recite his list of allergens since 2 and spell them since 5. And I suspect that if you'd read my comment rather than looking to jump on me because you view the food allergic as an inconvenience in some way, you would have noticed that I'm opposed to bans on homebaked goods.

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Vie Lewis Mar 05 2010 at 10:36 AM
When my youngest was 3 we found out his body could not handle sugar, any BHT, or food dyes.He would become very aggressive and kick hit bit anyone close by. This was over 35 years ago and a Doc. at Kaiser in SF realized children eating these things were getting reactions of violence. We sat down with our son and explained to him he can not have these things because it made his body angry, and he would get punished. Some how he understood and one day he was at a friends house and the mom offered
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him some cake. He said NO and she called me. I was very proud of him. For the school I told the teachers if there are sweets please let me know so I can bring something he can eat. Or you get to take care of him till it leave his body.LOL I did find that getting him to drink lots of water to flush him out helped. Thank goodness he out grew it and the bonus is he is not a sweet eater.
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Pamelaholt Mar 04 2010 at 9:54 PM

oh yeah pre packed is sooo safe and nutritious!!

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Robin Shreeves Mar 04 2010 at 5:35 PM
Allergies are a concern with anything given in school. My second grader has a girl with severe allergies in his class and he is very aware never to give her anything with a nut, never to sit near her at lunch with a PB&J. The school has done a great job in educating my son's class over the past two years. However, this decision to ban the baked goods has nothing to do with allergies. In fact, a lot of baked good sales happen during lunch time in the cafeteria where parents aren't present. So
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the child who might be allergic to a peanut butter cookie from a baked sale would also probably be allergic to the nuts that may be in the approved granola bar. The approved snacks don't seem to be particularly free from the normal (& the unusual things) that many kids are allergic to. Allergies are something to be concerned about, but they don't seem to be a factor in this baked goods ban.
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David Mar 04 2010 at 5:19 PM

It has nothing to do with purchasing items. If you have a 4 year old at school, you cant monitor all day if another kid hands him a knife or a piece of candy that had peanut butter on it. But hey, if 99% of kids aren't allergic, then screw the ones that are I guess. I mean, what's one dead kid out of a classroom full of them?

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PatWoman Mar 04 2010 at 6:15 PM

...and I know its tough....but I'm not sure how only having pre-packaged goods changes this....say that 1 kid gives another kid a home-baked peanut butter cookie. That's a big problem for the child who is allergic. But say that the school has outlawed home-baked goods so, instead, a kid gives another kid a Reese's Butter Cup....same problem.

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Chris Mar 04 2010 at 5:18 PM

Then you wouldn't purchase "unknown" stuff in the first place.

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David Mar 04 2010 at 4:55 PM

You wouldnt think it was crazy if your child was allergic to hidden ingredients in baked goods that aren't marked on the aluminum foil they get wrapped in at home.

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PatWoman Mar 04 2010 at 5:10 PM

...and it's tough to have a child with a life-threatening allergy, but I think its up to those parents to be super=observant....just like you'd look at the Cheetos label. If your child is in the 1% who have serious allergies, then stop him or her from purchasing these goods....just like you've avoid a Snickers bar if you had a peanut allergy. but for the literally 99% who aren't plagued with possible death situations, let us continue to cook and eat home-baked foods.

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