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Veganism myths debunked: Infographic
Being a vegan can come with considerable criticism and questions. Some are well-founded, but others ... not so much. Let's debunk some of the more prevalent myths about being a vegan.
Mon, Feb 13 2012 at 6:01 PM
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Anon Jul 22 2012 at 12:59 AM
Being vegetarian saves cows' lives, but threatens the future of other sentient creatures. nunro The ethics of eating red meat have been grilled recently by critics who question its consequences for environmental health and animal welfare. But if you want to minimise animal suffering and promote more sustainable agriculture, adopting a vegetarian diet might be the worst possible thing you could do. Renowned ethicist Peter Singer says if there is a range of ways of feeding ourselves, we should choose
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the way that causes the least unnecessary harm to animals. Most animal rights advocates say this means we should eat plants rather than animals. It takes somewhere between two to ten kilos of plants, depending on the type of plants involved, to produce one kilo of animal. Given the limited amount of productive land in the world, it would seem to some to make more sense to focus our culinary attentions on plants, because we would arguably get more energy per hectare for human consumption. Theoretically this should also mean fewer sentient animals would be killed to feed the ravenous appetites of ever more humans. But before scratching rangelands-produced red meat off the “good to eat” list for ethical or environmental reasons, let’s test these presumptions. Published figures suggest that, in Australia, producing wheat and other grains results in: at least 25 times more sentient animals being killed per kilogram of useable protein more environmental damage, and a great deal more animal cruelty than does farming red meat. How is this possible? Agriculture to produce wheat, rice and pulses requires clear-felling native vegetation. That act alone results in the deaths of thousands of Australian animals and plants per hectare. Since Europeans arrived on this continent we have lost more than half of Australia’s unique native vegetation, mostly to increase production of monocultures of introduced species for human consumption. Most of Australia’s arable land is already in use. If more Australians want their nutritional needs to be met by plants, our arable land will need to be even more intensely farmed. This will require a net increase in the use of fertilisers, herbicides, pesticides and other threats to biodiversity and environmental health. Or, if existing laws are changed, more native vegetation could be cleared for agriculture (an area the size of Victoria plus Tasmania would be needed to produce the additional amount of plant-based food required). Australian cattle eat mostly pasture, reducing their environmental impact. chris runoff Most cattle slaughtered in Australia feed solely on pasture. This is usually rangelands, which constitute about 70% of the continent. Grazing occurs on primarily native ecosystems. These have and maintain far higher levels of native biodiversity than croplands. The rangelands can’t be used to produce crops, so production of meat here doesn’t limit production of plant foods. Grazing is the only way humans can get substantial nutrients from 70% of the continent. In some cases rangelands have been substantially altered to increase the percentage of stock-friendly plants. Grazing can also cause significant damage such as soil loss and erosion. But it doesn’t result in the native ecosystem “blitzkrieg” required to grow crops. This environmental damage is causing some well-known environmentalists to question their own preconceptions. British environmental advocate George Monbiot, for example, publically converted from vegan to omnivore after reading Simon Fairlie’s expose about meat’s sustainability. And environmental activist Lierre Keith documented the awesome damage to global environments involved in producing plant foods for human consumption. In Australia we can also meet part of our protein needs using sustainably wild-harvested kangaroo meat. Unlike introduced meat animals, they don’t damage native biodiversity. They are soft-footed, low methane-producing and have relatively low water requirements. They also produce an exceptionally healthy low-fat meat. In Australia 70% of the beef produced for human consumption comes from animals raised on grazing lands with very little or no grain supplements. At any time, only 2% of Australia’s national herd of cattle are eating grains in feed lots; the other 98% are raised on and feeding on grass. Two-thirds of cattle slaughtered in Australia feed solely on pasture. To produce protein from grazing beef, cattle are killed. One death delivers (on average, across Australia’s grazing lands) a carcass of about 288 kilograms. This is approximately 68% boneless meat which, at 23% protein equals 45kg of protein per animal killed. This means 2.2 animals killed for each 100kg of useable animal protein produced. Producing protein from wheat means ploughing pasture land and planting it with seed. Anyone who has sat on a ploughing tractor knows the predatory birds that follow you all day are not there because they have nothing better to do. Ploughing and harvesting kill small mammals, snakes, lizards and other animals in vast numbers. In addition, millions of mice are poisoned in grain storage facilities every year. However, the largest and best-researched loss of sentient life is the poisoning of mice during plagues. With its soft feet and low water use, kangaroo is a source of less ecologically damaging meat. No Dust Each area of grain production in Australia has a mouse plague on average every four years, with 500-1000 mice per hectare. Poisoning kills at least 80% of the mice. At least 100 mice are killed per hectare per year (500/4 × 0.8) to grow grain. Average yields are about 1.4 tonnes of wheat/hectare; 13% of the wheat is useable protein. Therefore, at least 55 sentient animals die to produce 100kg of useable plant protein: 25 times more than for the same amount of rangelands beef. Some of this grain is used to “finish” beef cattle in feed lots (some is food for dairy cattle, pigs and poultry), but it is still the case that many more sentient lives are sacrificed to produce useable protein from grains than from rangelands cattle. There is a further issue to consider here: the question of sentience – the capacity to feel, perceive or be conscious. You might not think the billions of insects and spiders killed by grain production are sentient, though they perceive and respond to the world around them. You may dismiss snakes and lizards as cold-blooded creatures incapable of sentience, though they form pair bonds and care for their young. But what about mice? Mice are far more sentient than we thought. They sing complex, personalised love songs to each other that get more complex over time. Singing of any kind is a rare behaviour among mammals, previously known only to occur in whales, bats and humans. Girl mice, like swooning human teenagers, try to get close to a skilled crooner. Now researchers are trying to determine whether song innovations are genetically programmed or or whether mice learn to vary their songs as they mature. “Hoping to prepare them for an ethical oversight” Nikkita Archer Baby mice left in the nest sing to their mothers — a kind of crying song to call them back. For every female killed by the poisons we administer, on average five to six totally dependent baby mice will, despite singing their hearts out to call their mothers back home, inevitably die of starvation, dehydration or predation. When cattle, kangaroos and other meat animals are harvested they are killed instantly. Mice die a slow and very painful death from poisons. From a welfare point of view, these methods are among the least acceptable modes of killing. Although joeys are sometimes killed or left to fend for themselves, only 30% of kangaroos shot are females, only some of which will have young (the industry’s code of practice says shooters should avoid shooting females with dependent young). However, many times this number of dependent baby mice are left to die when we deliberately poison their mothers by the millions. Replacing red meat with grain products leads to many more sentient animal deaths, far greater animal suffering and significantly more environmental degradation. Protein obtained from grazing livestock costs far fewer lives per kilogram: it is a more humane, ethical and environmentally-friendly dietary option. So, what does a hungry human do? Our teeth and digestive system are adapted for omnivory. But we are now challenged to think about philosophical issues. We worry about the ethics involved in killing grazing animals and wonder if there are other more humane ways of obtaining adequate nutrients. Relying on grains and pulses brings destruction of native ecosystems, significant threats to native species and at least 25 times more deaths of sentient animals per kilogram of food. Most of these animals sing love songs to each other, until we inhumanely mass-slaughter them. Former Justice of the High Court, the Hon. Michael Kirby, wrote that: “In our shared sentience, human beings are intimately connected with other animals. Endowed with reason and speech, we are uniquely empowered to make ethical decisions and to unite for social change on behalf of others that have no voice. Exploited animals cannot protest about their treatment or demand a better life. They are entirely at our mercy. So every decision of animal welfare, whether in Parliament or the supermarket, presents us with a profound test of moral character”. We now know the mice have a voice, but we haven’t been listening. The challenge for the ethical eater is to choose the diet that causes the least deaths and environmental damage. There would appear to be far more ethical support for an omnivorous diet that includes rangeland-grown red meat and even more support for one that includes sustainably wild-harvested kangaroo. Thanks to many colleagues including Rosie Cooney, Peter Ampt, Grahame Webb, Bob Beale, Gordon Grigg, John Kelly, Suzanne Hand, Greg Miles, Alex Baumber, George Wilson, Peter Banks, Michael Cermak, Barry Cohen, Dan Lunney, Ernie Lundelius Jr and anonymous referees of the Australian Zoologist paper who provided helpful critiques. 322 Comments Republish Email Tweet Share TAGS Animal welfare, Vegetarianism, Ethics, Kangaroos, Cows, Meat RELATED ARTICLES 3 July 2012 From religion to patriotism: how we see the death of a soldier 28 June 2012 Challenge 15: Let’s get ethical; embracing the cosmos leads to better decision-making 27 June 2012 The ethics of bravery: why a Black Saturday ‘hero’ lost his award 18 June 2012 Challenge 7: The market, morals, ethics, and poverty 13 June 2012 Health, environment and animal welfare – a recipe for peak meat
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homosapienoverboard Mar 18 2012 at 12:09 PM

The reason people cook the flesh of a murdered animal is because it's already rotting. Once it's in you it'll more or less sit there and take an eternity to digest. Sure it has some iron, protein, and B vitamins, but you can get these things elsewhere without the toxic overload.

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anonymous
RC Mar 18 2012 at 3:28 AM
People are being ridiculous, human beings are omnivorous creatures, that means we eat animals and plants. ever since cave men times, humans have hunted animals and scavenged for berries and nuts. Humans can eat raw meat, it's possible, people do it all the time. I've seen it done, as long as it was after it was killed, the body is still warm and bacteria isnt really gathering yet, our stomach is made to handle eating meet and plants. People feel bad for killing animals because they're living, yet
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people dont know that plants are living and actually have been scientifically proven to feel up until it dies
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gary_2
gary_2 Mar 30 2013 at 6:43 PM
There is no scientific proof that plants have sentience. They react, just like a paper towel sheet curls up and chemicals react. Animals' sentience is profoundly obvious. Anyone knows there's a difference between running over the lawn and running over the dog. But if you're truly concerned about plant suffering, a vegan diet almost always kills fewer plants. Our stomachs are ill-equipped to handle meat. Our stomach pH isn't low like true carnivores, and our intestinal tract is long like herbivores,
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so the meat basically rots in our bodies. We don't salivate when we see a dead bird or nest of eggs. In ancient times, humans ate meat because calories were scarce. In the developed world, that is no longer the case. We have the technology to thrive on a plant-based diet. In fact some indigenous populations, such as the Hunzas and Vilacabambas, are among the healthiest, ongest-lived people in the world, and get nearly all their calories from plants - and they don't live close to supermarkets with thousands of delicious, healthy pant items all year-round.
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anonymous
TF May 14 2012 at 12:46 AM
The old past action should imply present action fallacy i see. I agree we are omnivores. We do not NEED meat to survive or thrive, evidenced by vegans who exist and thrive for many years. Thats the heuristic evidence. What we NEED to survive are simply certain macro and micro nutrients. The only thing lacking in modern vegan diets is B12. Take a pill, get some nutritional yeast or fortified products. Many, many food products are fortified anyway, whether its "natural" or not is irrelevant.
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Natural doesn't mean something is right or wrong. Nor is how something was done in the past an indicator of what is right now. Plants have reactions to stimuli, survival mechanisms. This is not the same as sentience or any kind of meaningful suffering. We know animals meaningfully suffer because they suffer in nearly identical ways to us. Remember that the mechanisms that you talk about (i presume) are cellular responses to stimuli such as intense heat, which show that plants "feel" in a simple way. However our cells have the exact same responses when we say lay out for a tan (thats not self abuse is it?). There is a distinct difference between ways mammals, birds and certain other animals suffer and plants reactions to stimuli. If veganism is a tool for reducing suffering and exploitation of animals, it similarly would reduce more plant suffering as well since vegans actually are responsible for consuming less plant matter too (animals eat many many plants before we kill them, and that would all be a result of our consumption). And for laughs "yet people dont know that plants are living" ?? Who has ever said that plants are not living?
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Guest Mar 24 2012 at 2:36 PM

plants do not feel pain. they do not have a central nervous system, because they can not move, which is the reason we have a CNS, for movement.

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Max Mar 18 2012 at 3:48 PM
"Even if they [cavemen] did, it doesn't matter. That's because people act by idea rather than by instinct. Other animals are programmed to know what food is. We are not. For us, it's learned behavior. Or in some cases, guessed behavior. We can make choices about what we should eat even if that's contrary to good health, as millions prove every day when they eat at McDonald's. If our ancestors ate meat, they were simply being human and making choices rather than acting on instinct. Think about it:
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Do you really believe that cavemen were true experts about nutrition? If so, what other major decisions about your life would you like to put in the hands of a caveman?" read more here: http://michaelbluejay.com/veg/natural.html
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Guest Aug 31 2012 at 12:50 PM

kinda makes us a stupid creature for not being able to tell what food is.

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anonymous
Jace Mar 13 2012 at 5:01 PM

We cook our meat because in reality, humans find chewing on decaying flesh utterly disgusting and immoral. So we make up words like "meat" and "steak" to hide what it really is, "flesh." We decorate it with sauces, spices, cheese (which is just another mammal's mucous) and we cook it. No "true" carnivore in the world cooks its flesh before eating it.

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anonymous
plant based Feb 20 2012 at 9:13 PM

Those who say it cannot be done should not interrupt the people doing it.

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Rip Feb 20 2012 at 1:29 PM

I am NOT a vegan, but wonder why we humans HAVE to cook our meat to avoid getting sick or worse. If we were supposed to eat meat, why at 160f? Just wondering.

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anonymous
Guest Feb 28 2012 at 1:02 PM

It's called bacteria and it's not just found in meat. That's why almost all foods have to either be cooked or washed to some degree.

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anonymous
Natasha Jul 08 2012 at 12:56 PM

and what other being needs to cook their meat to be able to eat it without getting sick? you don't see lions and tigers and bears chilling at a barbecue.

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anonymous
Guest Jul 16 2012 at 1:41 AM

Animals in the wilderness have had generations to fortify their immune systems against bacteria whereas humans have declined in that area due to less exposure to bacteria. That is why we require such a level of cleansing when it comes to what we consume.

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Baldwin Feb 20 2012 at 4:14 AM

there is no way Baldwin got as fat as he did eating Vegan. Not a chance.

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anonymous
Guest Mar 14 2012 at 12:55 PM

Soda pop and potato chips are vegan. Don't assume just because someone is vegan that they are eating healthy.

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Bianca Feb 23 2012 at 12:22 PM

LOL he ate a lot of vegan dessert! Since he started yoga and gave up the sweets, he shed some pounds. He looks good now.

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anonymous
Guest Feb 22 2012 at 8:25 AM

he probably got that way by drinking alcohol beverages :) ...

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anonymous
Ed Feb 18 2012 at 7:07 PM
Look folks, most food, especially if not subjected to extensive "processing" to add sugar and salt is healthy and tasty. Meat has several vitamins difficult to find in a vegan diet. In order to get these vitamins, one need eat only four or five ounces of meat a day. Vegetables (and fruit) are essential to a balanced and healthy diet. Grains are much less important than our government would have us believe but still contribute taste and fiber. What we in the US get far too much of is sugar and other
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short chain carbohydrates. These are rapidly converted by our bodies into LDL and stored fat. They stimulate insulin secretion and insulin in turn contributes to fat stores. If you wish to eat healthy, throw out your sugar bowl (and honey pot) as the first step. Eat as much fresh vegetables and fruit as you can find. Buy high quality meat both because it tastes better and because you will eat smaller servings due to the cost. If you insist on a sweet at the end of the meal, make it a small one.
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anonymous
Jace Mar 13 2012 at 5:06 PM
Ed, you are 100% correct in everything you say except about the high quality meat part. No animal protein is healthy for human beings. At the most, a human body can sustain 5% of its diet from eating flesh. That's one meal per week. The problem is, humans are addictive creatures and can't stop at one meal so they need to do away with eating flesh and dairy all together. There is no vitamin or enzyme found in animal flesh that isn't found in a healthier form in plants. B12 is the only vitamin
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that some vegans lack but that is because in the US we have destroyed the soil so badly and we insanely wash all of our plants before eating them. B12 is found in a micro-organism which lives in the soil and is supposed to be eaten along with the plants that humans were made to pick and eat.
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anonymous
Guest Feb 20 2012 at 9:01 PM

Ed can you please tell me what vitamins, other than b-12 does meat contain that a vegan diet does not. Hint NONE, do your research. FYI...that tasty expensive quality cow your eating...is VEGAN

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anonymous
Guest Feb 28 2012 at 1:04 PM

Good for the cow. If it doesn't want to get eaten, it should go to India.

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anonymous
JD Feb 16 2012 at 9:42 PM
For all who consume animals & their secretions, there is the ultimate karma. Something like 99% of the animal based food supply comes from factory farms where animals are drugged, tortured & kept alive just long enough to get them to an unimaginable slaughter. People eat this with a smile on their face only to wind up with many times more cases of cancers, diabetes, heart disease, autoimmune diseases than their vegan counterparts. See The China Study for endless facts & documentation.
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Also see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP3y3OwSHyk just to get a glimpse of what is kept hidden from the unsuspecting public. It's time to stand up & not let the big corporations dictate what to eat...GOT MILK/ BEEF; IT'S WHAT'S FOR DINNER????? How do you spell out of control health care costs just for a fleeting selfish pleasure of eating animals.
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anonymous
Lindsey Feb 16 2012 at 8:28 PM
I have met some less than friendly vegans in my life but I must say that while I make it clear that I don't buy, cook or store animal products in my own kitchen I never tell anyone they should do the same. I do wish that more people would embrace a vegan (or even less animal reliant) lifestyle but I don't lecture. I share recipes and information when asked and the vegetarians I know do the same. I have, however, gotten many snide remarks about my lifestyle choice and have lately gotten a rash
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of offers of money to eat a steak. We (vegans) have made a choice for our own lives and since I'm not telling somebody else how they should live I would just like to be given the same consideration.
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anonymous
Lindsey Feb 16 2012 at 8:34 PM

Clarification: 1) More vegans that I have met have been pleasant than have not...I did not mean for that to sound as if there are crabby vegans around every corner. 2) Most of my nearest and dearest are omnivores and aside from gentle teasing they, along with a good number of other omnivores, are kind about my choice.

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