Bill Gates funds cloud factory
The planet-saving billionaire just funded a new geoengineering project which seeks to stop climate change. But some environmentalists are very worried.
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If the gates fool is involved you can expect it to screw up and destroy the earth.
The US alone produces about 1/4 of all greenhouse gases admitted into the atmosphere. thats only 300 million pple out of 6 billion creating about 25%. So what he needs to be funding is alternative energy solutions...not clouds. And how much fossil fuel will it take to fuel these ships that r going to pump ocean water into the atmosphere?? in addition to alternative energy, green roofs can also help the heat island effect in big cities and the technology exists now...it just needs to be.... More
Climate change is normal. Some times its hot; some times is cold. Plants like the heat and CO2. Greenland used to be green you know. And there was no industry back then. There is no man made problem here. Now, for he legitimately concerned, you need to look at solar activity. And, how your going to stop that. :-) For the politicians, its about money (scam money - like in Europe), and how to tax the hell out of people and make them think its for their good.
The question is: How certain are you that Global Warming is going to be catastrophic? Projects to change the earth's atmosphere are *incredibly* risky, because we know very little about what the side effects will be. You better be damn well sure. Call me conservative, but I think I'd rather wait a few decades and see how things pan out before resorting to radical solutions.
I am honored and humbled to tell you that Bill Gates phoned me in my dorm when I was an undergrad at The Catholic University of America in 1989-90, when I shared a room with Mike Lehrer of Fla, who is now an attorney. Gates was on the David Letterman show soon after that call, and said that I was way ahead of my time, and I could be President, and Dave said,"CIA?They're good people over there?Which Party is he in? Can we say his name? Dan Tobin? One of those good Catholic families in the.... More
My head has been in the clouds for a while, so I got this one figured out.
*high five*
Sorry to make a pop culture reference, but this reminds me of the episode of the Simpsons where the "smart" people take over the town and quickly institute rules and policies that result in humorous yet catastrophic results.
the difference with gates's stuff is it isn't so humorous.
nearly everyone at my work thinks gates is a great humanitarian and philanthropist. they have no idea how wrong they are.
There is already people who spray chemicals in our air. It is dangerous and has been going on for well over 10 years now. I don't know how different this is but I hope the studies are being done intensively before any action is taken.
To Amber and Everyone Else:
YES! And BEWARE so-called "Experts", Politicians and Air Force who are bought off...to misrepresentations to public...and FALSE REMEDIES (also unknowingly (?) delivering false remedies as the U.S. Air Force) from the GET GO, such as "Weather Modification" and "Operation Cloverleaf" adacious Bills to Congress, etc.
And it goes on and on...which you already know.
MORE CLOUDS CAUSE MORE GLOBAL WARMING!!!!
THEY TRAP HEAT INSIDE OUR ATMOSPHERE.
BILL GATES MUST BE A DUMB ***.
the ground absorbs the sunlight, it's re-radiated as InfraRed (IR) which CO2 bounces back, not the cloud.
BILL GATES - BUY THE RAINFORESTS AND PLANT ONE MILLION TREES.
If we really are as far along the global warming path as the environmentalists tell us, then the only viable altenatives are geoengineering and large scale sequestration. CO2 has a half life of 38 years in the atmosphere; if the world is already warming significantly with the current levels of CO2, then even if we didn't release more, it would still take a number of years before the current atmospheric levels would reduce to reverse warming.
SO2 from volcanos has a significant.... More
It will probably turn out in the end that they poisoned us all. Spraying unnatural chemicals in the air, which they have no long term studies for sounds like a great idea. Someone should outlaw it before they have a chance to spray it over our heads.
If they want to use it just test it on mars first. According to national geographic the polar ice caps are melting there too. (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html.... More
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Although sea water is hardly an "unnatural chemical", it has been identified as a greenhouse 'gas'. The natural water cycle introduces distilled [evaporated] h20 to the atmosphere, which begs the question; "What will all that salt do?".
While I do share your trepidation about this idea overall, I don't know that I would call ocean water an "unnatural chemical".
It will probably turn out in the end that they poisoned us all. Spraying unnatural chemicals in the air, which they have no long term studies for sounds like a great idea. Someone should outlaw it before they have a chance to spray it over our heads.
If they want to use it just test it on mars first. According to national geographic the polar ice caps are melting there too. (http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/02/070228-mars-warming.html )
There's dumb and then there's Al Gore
Maybe if we didnt have people living in McMansions, driving/flying all over the place, 100% off the grid, composting toilets, other pre 1950 ideas we would be producing less heat. People at less, we had few strip malls and fast food places. And getting all the needed mirrors into space may well mess up the upper atmosphere, turning the atmosphere above us into a freeway, just as we strive for further space travel. And mirrors that last usually use silver which is mined and often produced a.... More
Thanks for the article. We truly live in a time in which money and technical know-how can dramatically change things in a very short amount of time. That power combined with a shortage of insight or a disregard for uncertainty (which is not just a philosophical concept, but haunts the more rigorous disciplines of engineering, math, and science) is a recipe for disaster.
(Just fyi, you probably want to substitute an actual link where you wrote "link to my story on Royal Society presenting to.... More
Venus has clouds. Its cool, right?
Did they happen to watch the matrix?
omg its 35 at night in may. IM COLD stop it!
Its funny that there are so many posts that seem super worried about our world, and yet when someone proposes a viable method for slowing down global warming, i see only a single supportive comment on the idea. Most are just dumb. Like Jeff's comment about the profit system. This is not a move based on a financial return, for a long time now bill gates has turned into a philanthropist who is giving back to the world, even ungrateful like you. .... More
You don't have to be moral anymore to be environmentalist, just a bunch of money...
Why waste valuable money on mechancal trees, hello stop tearing down the forests, it's alot cheaper and it sucks up co2 naturally. For this cloud making idea aren't these ppl on they're boats going to disturb some animals in they're natural habbitat?? It's all so foolish just stop tearing down forrests and poisoning our oceans and skies
Great idea and I am glad that Gates is using his billions in a worthy cause.
In fact, I would rather that he used some of the fortune that I and millions of others have given him to actually do something, rather than fork over taxes and duties to the government who then give the cash to the government to play with on the carbon markets.
Sea water clouds? Salt? The Romans didn't actually sow salt in Carthage, but Gates wants to? Beware geeks with ideas about climate who also think the earth is overpopulated.
Um, I think Mother Nature is going to be a little bit defiant about this idea.
If private industry doesn't step forward, who will? Government is hampered by the crazies who don't think climate change exists...it could take decades for that fight to settle down...meanwhile, we're losing valuable moments.
Our usage. This geoengineering business will be our undoing.
It doesn't matter what we talk about.... The fact that we live in a profit system means that any investment is based on profit motive. This capitalist freemarket system turns our "democracy" into a Plutonomy. Any decision made now is in the interest of profit, not you and I.
