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Japanese breakthrough will make wind power cheaper than nuclear
A surprising aerodynamic innovation in wind turbine design called the 'wind lens' could triple the output of a typical wind turbine, making it less costly than nuclear power.
Mon, Aug 29 2011 at 2:47 AM
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NOTE: Some major wind projects like the proposed TWE Carbon Valley project in Wyoming are already pricing in significantly lower than coal power -- $80 per MWh for wind versus $90 per MWh for coal -- and that is without government subsidies using today's wind turbine technology. 
 
The International Clean Energy Analysis (ICEA) gateway estimates that the U.S. possesses 2.2 million km2 of high wind potential (Class 3-7 winds) — about 850,000 square miles of land that could yield high levels of wind energy. This makes the U.S. something of a Saudi Arabia for wind energy, ranked third in the world for total wind energy potential.
 
Let's say we developed just 20 percent of those wind resources — 170,000 square miles (440,000 km2) or an area roughly 1/4 the size of Alaska — we could produce a whopping 8.7 billion megawatt hours of electricity each year (based on a theoretical conversion of six 1.5 MW turbines per km2 and an average output of 25 percent. (1.5 MW x 365 days x 24 hrs x 25% = 3,285 MWh's).
 
The United States uses about 26.6 billion MWh's, so at the above rate we could satisfy a full one-third of our total annual energy needs. (Of course, this assumes the concurrent deployment of a nationwide Smart Grid that could store and disburse the variable sources of wind power as needed using a variety of technologies — gas or coal peaking, utility scale storage via batteries or fly-wheels, etc).
 
Now what if a breakthrough came along that potentially tripled the energy output of those turbines? You see where I'm going. We could in theory supply the TOTAL annual energy needs of the U.S. simply by exploiting 20 percent of our available wind resources.
 
Well, such a breakthrough has been made, and it's called the "wind lens." 
 

 
Imagine: no more dirty coal power, no more mining deaths, no more nuclear disasters, no more polluted aquifers as a result of fracking. Our entire society powered by the quiet "woosh" of a wind turbine. Kyushu University's wind lens turbine is one example of the many innovations happening right now that could in the near future make this utopian vision a reality.
 
Yes, it's a heck of a lot of wind turbines (about 2,640,000) but the U.S. with its endless miles of prairie and agricultural land is one of the few nations that could actually deploy such a network of wind turbines without disrupting the current productivity of the land (Russia and China also come to mind). It would also be a win-win for states in the highest wind area — the Midwest — which has been hard hit by the recession. And think of the millions upon millions of jobs that would be created building a 21st century energy distribution system free of the shackles of ever-diminishing fossil fuel supplies. 
 
It's also important to point out that growth in wind power capacity is perfectly symbiotic with projected growth in electric vehicles. EV battery packs can soak up wind power produced during the night, helping to equalize the curve of daytime energy demand. So the controversial investment currently being entertained by President Obama to pipe oil down from the Canadian Tar Sands would — in my utopian vision — be a moot point.
 
It is indeed a lofty vision, but the technology we need is now in our reach. And think of the benefits of having our power production fed by a resource that is both free and unlimited. One downside often cited by advocates of coal and gas power is that wind turbines require a lot more maintenence than a typical coal or gas power plant. But in a lagging economy this might just be wind power's biggest upside — it will create lots and lots of permanent jobs, sparking a new cycle of economic growth in America.
 
Editor's note: Want more info? Karl breaks down the math in his next post.

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Andy Jo Aug 06 2012 at 6:47 AM

I couldn't agree more. I live in South Texas and we have 360 days of sunshine (solar power?) and 365 windy days! The whole state could literally run off of these amazing energy ideas, but alas...we use oil oil oil. So sad.

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Tanner Feb 06 2013 at 4:26 PM

Wind energy does pay for its self. It is expensive to manufacture and build these giant wind turbines. This is why they wind turbin companies are going out of business.

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anomymous Jun 14 2012 at 11:23 PM

Is it possible to put 6 of the turbines on a single square km?

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Owyheeboy2549 Jun 06 2012 at 4:20 PM

But i don't want these ugly contraptions obstructing my view of the beautiful Oregon landscape!

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Tristan - Somerset Sep 09 2012 at 11:45 AM

We have to look at a Nuclear power station that powers YOUR house! I don't really want that in MY back yard! - Unless you are doing everything in your ability to reduce your energy consumption then I have no sympathy for your view.

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mike May 16 2012 at 5:13 AM

bye, bye birds

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praveen kumar May 05 2012 at 1:43 AM

wer is the shaft connected?
y the middle part is not connected ?

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Tarrant May 05 2012 at 8:16 AM

It appears to me that the inner part runs on a track inside the outer part.

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chrisnoway May 02 2012 at 1:21 PM

it would appear that so many comments get a little off track perhaps what we really need is a more responsible consumer attitude about how we consume energy and the products we buy and create that require energy to function ! BLAH,BLAH,BLAH

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3rdfloor Apr 30 2012 at 4:07 AM
Wake -up ? the saudis are saying they can produce enough solar generated from when and if they do it from their desert in one hour to give the planet enough elec. for a day or year or something like that ... Now think of this all you have to do is put a solar panel grid in outer space ,thats rite ,infact put a bunch of them .How do you get the power back ? change it into the same as your micro way you have in your kitchen you have enough power always even if you turn everthing on an leave it on
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an even if all the cars on the planet were elec. no\\No body wants you to know that and its cheap real cheap nothing can compare to -How cheap the cost is ... you would shit bricks if you knew .. BIG OIL keeps you stupid ... wake people up this is the real anwser space power grids running 24-7 Duh...
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Larry W4CSC Jan 26 2013 at 8:32 PM

Think, people, THINK! Every time I see some crazy greenie scheme to funnel ENERGY from solar panels/mirrors/other magic from space, I can't help but spew my coffee over my keyboard. WHAT WILL 500 GIGAWATTS OF THIS POWER DO TO THE TEMPERATURE OF THE PLANET?!

The same idiots that want to take away our cars and want us to ride a horse are funneling massive HEAT to the planet for some stupid space-based solar power system. Most amusing.....

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Frank Apr 20 2012 at 10:26 AM

That windmill LOOKS awesome. But i always thought that the cost to build things like that would always outweigh the money you get in return.

I build a windmill at my house out of a car alternator, it works great, but still not cheaper then just paying for electricity. More pictures here: http://davewirth.blogspot.com/2009/10/windmill_1420.html

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nidhin Apr 16 2012 at 12:33 PM
Wind energy is actually quite cool to be honest, but the simple fact is that you only get power when there is wind not when you want power. Well I live in between India's largest windfarm (a total installed capacity of nearly 3000MW), but now during the summer when household electricity consumption is highest, it seems that the wind god's too are enjoying their summer vacations, so not even a single wind turbine seems to be turning when we need them the most. Whereas if you look at Nuclear power
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plants they operate as base load stations so no matter what the weather is they will be pumping out peak power until a natural disaster triggers an emergency trip of the reactor. So as far as the question of replacing Nuclear or coal based power plants goes I think, alternate energy sources like wind an solar simply don't have flexibility that coal and nuclear energy offers, but they can be a very good companion to these power plants, if not soon at least in the long run they can be widespread in countries like India.
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garroty_s_pimp May 05 2012 at 9:50 PM

Switch to Solar in the Summer. Then you'll have the best of both --wind power and solar power. Seems like a good marriage of technologies--a hybrid power generator. We've done that here in the States already. So, it's your turn over there in India. Va Pour Sa!

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Anon Apr 20 2012 at 10:56 PM

Yeah, but if a windmill breaks, you don't have to evacuate a town and worry about being exposed to dangerous nuclear radiation like you would if a nuclear plant melts down.

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Haridas Mandal Apr 10 2012 at 5:56 AM
When we talk about alternate energy we talk about the need of a few percent of people who are anyway guranted electricity for their needs and luxury. Think of the developing world where almost 85 % of the population is deprived of electric power in their homes.Not that there is not sufficient electricity but a few loves to consume too much for them. What we therefore need a re-look at the needs of the people.And then make electricity a fundamental right to each and citizen in the world.Once that
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is done alternative energy in any form is welcome or else we object giving away lands for windMills at throwaway prices to generate electricity for the eleitist few.
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Barry Apr 09 2012 at 1:07 PM

Sounds feasible, but a disaster for the environment, what about installing solar Panels on every roof of all the houses that exist, ie Electrical companies must replace House Roofs with solar panels with a electrical bill discount to every building concerned instead of covering the country side with wind towers and hundreds of acres of land covered in Solar Panels.

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Gordon Truesdale Apr 08 2012 at 11:39 AM

What about the environmental impact on birds and insects? Those prairies are huge migration routes.

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Guest Apr 29 2012 at 4:32 PM
Disclaimer: Not an ecologist (evolutionary biologist), so I this is really all I know: I was at a biology conference in January and popped into a session on the ecological impact of wind turbines. Apparently wind farms DO result in mass deaths of birds, bats, and insects-- I was shocked at the numbers. On the flip side, though, many wind farms seem to be willing to work with ecologists to reduce the impact as much as possible (i.e. turning the turbines parallel to migration routes and powering
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Guest Apr 01 2012 at 7:17 PM

this would be great in every state.

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cesar39nt Mar 28 2012 at 11:07 AM

sheer genius and why have our representatives not announced this breakthrough? because big oil dumps a boatload of donations to every one of them so you see where their priorities lie,not with the American citizen for sure

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jose Mar 26 2012 at 11:00 AM

How about a few facts on how this new lens works.

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ldean50 Mar 23 2012 at 12:53 PM

TransWest LLC and the DOE are building a windfarm in CO and the electricity generated will travel on high-voltage power lines from CO to Las Vegas-expected completion date is 2014. It's supposed to power Vegas, Los Angeles and San Diego. TransWest is owned by CO billionaire Anspach (or something close) the guy that was financing Michael Jackson's comeback tour. Let's see how that turns out.

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singleguythatrocks Aug 23 2012 at 2:29 PM
alright, it is actually very difficult to find stats on electricity consumption by city. Las vegas is estimated at 23 TWh, L.A. is aprox. 26 TWh, and san diego is at approx. 25 Twh. All of these figures I have actually rounded down.... So that is still, a total of 74 Twh... I apologize if you just regurgitated another stat, but in total, including current and planned projects, calorado has 2.4793 GW of installed capacity of Wind turbines. Even if this ran 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, it only
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amounts to 22 TWh.... while in actuality the amount would be closer to 10 TWh as 50% capacity factor is high for wind turbines. At a 50% capacity factor, they would still need 17 GW of generating capacity to power these three cities.... again 50% is higher than average. So unless colorado has a backer backing 15 GW of wind turbines, which would amount to projects costing well over 100 billion dollars, Im doubtful. In comparison, new nuclear reactors operate at 90+ capacity factors... current Canadian reactors can run at above 93%... and this is baseload power... You would need to install 9.51GW of nuclear power... You could easily do one plant per city with multiple reactors. I am from ontario, and from three plant sites, we have 12GW of nuclear power generating over 80TWh of our electricity demand (or equivalent to the global production from solar energy in 2011) from three sites....
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ldean50 Mar 23 2012 at 12:58 PM
If I lived in CO, I think I would be aggravated by the fact that the windmills are being built in CO - while the benefit is being given to southern CA and NV. But Anspach has big financial interests in Los Angeles. I think we need an "investigative reporter." The only reason I know about it is because I'm involved in historic preservation and this power line is going to destroy the National Landmark known as the Mountain Meadow Massacre site in Utah. I'm on the fence. People need to look at National
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Power Corridors before you purchase land/build a house, because these corridors are in place and will be used in the future for high-voltage lines... you might be building next to one - you need to know where they are. Those corridors were established about 2003 and there is nothing you can do to change them. Just FYI.
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