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Japanese breakthrough will make wind power cheaper than nuclear
A surprising aerodynamic innovation in wind turbine design called the 'wind lens' could triple the output of a typical wind turbine, making it less costly than nuclear power.
Mon, Aug 29 2011 at 2:47 AM
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NOTE: Some major wind projects like the proposed TWE Carbon Valley project in Wyoming are already pricing in significantly lower than coal power -- $80 per MWh for wind versus $90 per MWh for coal -- and that is without government subsidies using today's wind turbine technology. 
 
The International Clean Energy Analysis (ICEA) gateway estimates that the U.S. possesses 2.2 million km2 of high wind potential (Class 3-7 winds) — about 850,000 square miles of land that could yield high levels of wind energy. This makes the U.S. something of a Saudi Arabia for wind energy, ranked third in the world for total wind energy potential.
 
Let's say we developed just 20 percent of those wind resources — 170,000 square miles (440,000 km2) or an area roughly 1/4 the size of Alaska — we could produce a whopping 8.7 billion megawatt hours of electricity each year (based on a theoretical conversion of six 1.5 MW turbines per km2 and an average output of 25 percent. (1.5 MW x 365 days x 24 hrs x 25% = 3,285 MWh's).
 
The United States uses about 26.6 billion MWh's, so at the above rate we could satisfy a full one-third of our total annual energy needs. (Of course, this assumes the concurrent deployment of a nationwide Smart Grid that could store and disburse the variable sources of wind power as needed using a variety of technologies — gas or coal peaking, utility scale storage via batteries or fly-wheels, etc).
 
Now what if a breakthrough came along that potentially tripled the energy output of those turbines? You see where I'm going. We could in theory supply the TOTAL annual energy needs of the U.S. simply by exploiting 20 percent of our available wind resources.
 
Well, such a breakthrough has been made, and it's called the "wind lens." 
 

 
Imagine: no more dirty coal power, no more mining deaths, no more nuclear disasters, no more polluted aquifers as a result of fracking. Our entire society powered by the quiet "woosh" of a wind turbine. Kyushu University's wind lens turbine is one example of the many innovations happening right now that could in the near future make this utopian vision a reality.
 
Yes, it's a heck of a lot of wind turbines (about 2,640,000) but the U.S. with its endless miles of prairie and agricultural land is one of the few nations that could actually deploy such a network of wind turbines without disrupting the current productivity of the land (Russia and China also come to mind). It would also be a win-win for states in the highest wind area — the Midwest — which has been hard hit by the recession. And think of the millions upon millions of jobs that would be created building a 21st century energy distribution system free of the shackles of ever-diminishing fossil fuel supplies. 
 
It's also important to point out that growth in wind power capacity is perfectly symbiotic with projected growth in electric vehicles. EV battery packs can soak up wind power produced during the night, helping to equalize the curve of daytime energy demand. So the controversial investment currently being entertained by President Obama to pipe oil down from the Canadian Tar Sands would — in my utopian vision — be a moot point.
 
It is indeed a lofty vision, but the technology we need is now in our reach. And think of the benefits of having our power production fed by a resource that is both free and unlimited. One downside often cited by advocates of coal and gas power is that wind turbines require a lot more maintenence than a typical coal or gas power plant. But in a lagging economy this might just be wind power's biggest upside — it will create lots and lots of permanent jobs, sparking a new cycle of economic growth in America.
 
Editor's note: Want more info? Karl breaks down the math in his next post.

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she343 Apr 25 2012 at 4:48 PM

this certainly isn't anything new-- I used to live within 5 miles of a nuke plant but the power went to another state (they got better rates for it)-- we got the extra cost and the danger while someone else got the electric!
Indian tribes didn't get any electric for having their lands contaminated from mining uranium ore-- just high cancer rates.

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Guest Apr 08 2012 at 11:25 PM

Just think that most of all the power generated by the Hoover Dam goes to the LA area. What we need is power that is generated to supply the local area and any surplus energy then be feed onto the national grid.

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joro Mar 21 2012 at 8:37 PM

Fantastic if this is real. Here is an interesting story as well.
http://money.cnn.com/video/news/2011/05/04/n_co_vestas_ceo.cnnmoney/

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Heather Mar 21 2012 at 3:32 PM

"....Let's say we developed just 20 percent of those wind resources — 170,000 square miles (440,000 km2) or an area roughly 1/4 the size of Alaska...."

one forth the land area of Alaska? I want to see you get this past the enviromentalist loonies. Using that much land?

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Guest Mar 31 2012 at 3:04 AM

IDK if anyone else noticed but 170,000 square miles happens to be larger than THE ENTIRE STATE OF CALIFORNIA! Every number based off of the calculations of this proposed wind farm is completely unrealistic.

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Eric Mar 23 2012 at 12:38 PM

Relative size spread throughout the United States... not an actual 1/4 portion of Alaska...

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ldean50 Mar 23 2012 at 12:36 PM

As one of those environmentalist loonies - I'd vote for it; it is a non-lethal source of energy.

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why do not our ... Mar 20 2012 at 8:28 PM

It is better and safer ,may be in addition to getting power from neuclear sources
senior translator, researcher , negotiater and blogger
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llaadi Mar 18 2012 at 4:00 PM
Funny, just lately I've been wondering why wind turbines have to be so humungous, and they've seemingly only invented ONE style that can git 'er dun? Seems wack. While a lot of NIMBY Pimby old grumps hate the monstrous things with which they plan on lining every mountain range, we could (should) be coming up with smaller scale, individual-level solutions. Every home could have several solar panels and a smaller, lighter weight wind turbine and cut their bills in half or by a third... instead we
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have to have these monstrosities that require megatons of public funding . Everyone waits around for some top down solution to be dictated to them... "save us, oh mighty government" or "come to the rescue, huge mega-corporation!" Get your own independence and sources of energy. It means freedom, autonomy, AND a cleaner future.
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Al Finnell Mar 20 2012 at 10:50 PM
The wind depends on "energy" to produce hp (watts). About 12 mph is required, and there is a thing called the Betts law which calculates the power possible. I have a patent on a new turbine, and am in in the process of making a 5 meter rig now. This should make it possible for every farm to produce the power for the water pump, and a bit to spare. (for you information, a windmill is direct power, and has very little loss in efficiency. By having a generator, half of all power is used in heat
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in the generator itself. Thus, an electric turbine must produce at least 2x the power of a windmill to do the same work.alfiefinnell@gmail.com
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Guest Mar 19 2012 at 4:53 PM

The only problem, wind technology relies on wind... which means when no wind, no power. So we need something reliable, predictable, don't we? I suppose everyone should have a diesel generator as backup.

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Guest Jun 19 2012 at 11:00 PM

I don't understand how people can say things like this with such massive confidence. Think! Your city likely doesn't have its own power plant NOW because our reactors, etc are distributed all across the country.

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she343 Apr 25 2012 at 4:57 PM

not if they were tied into a grid-- wind will be blowing somewhere!
traditional plants also go down for maintenance and repairs-- we just pull from other sources on the grid.
The main thing is to reduce the amount of electric we use (we waste about 40%, we should start there). All answers make more sense if the amount needed is reduced.

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Guest Apr 08 2012 at 11:34 PM

Then you don't just rely on wind alone. You have to combine your resources. Solar and wind are good choices. Producing energy from a gas or diesel generator is not cost effective for the average home owner, even if it is only done on a short term basis.

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Al Finnell Mar 20 2012 at 10:54 PM

You are spoiled. If you go back 70 years in the US, then a windmill was on every farm. There was a big watering tank to pump into when the wind blew. Normally this happens at early morning and during afternoon. When no wind, no water, so you have to have a big tank to handle the cattle in case of no wind for a day or so.
Get used to "outages" if you do not have a diesel. You plan your stuff around when the power is there.

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jeremy Mar 25 2012 at 7:30 PM

but this isnt 70 years ago. we are looking for ways to better the lives of everyone all the time. loot at all the miserable people 70 years ago too, granted we still have poor and down trodden but look at the difference in the average persons life now compared to then.

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Ron McCune Mar 16 2012 at 2:19 AM
We have to get away from the use of oil, coal and nuclear power because century's from now we need to leave the world some oil and coal and a clean environment that isn't destroyed by what we do today. It's obvious when we don't even have any more winters like we had 50 years ago that something is wrong. When winter temperatures are like spring weather you have to admit that global warming is here and there isn't no denying it. Progress is made when a better way is thought of and initiated. We have
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to stop thinking like we are two opposing groups of Americans in our political world and start thinking what is best for our world! Future generations are relying on us to make the right decisions.
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Mseeker Mar 16 2012 at 12:44 PM
About the climate temperature rise, it's curious that no one ever mention that when the Vikings came in Esperies ( North America) around year 800 to 900 after Christ, the named a big island " Groenland" Witch we call " GreenLand " a place where today lies a gigantic bloc of rapidly melting ice... The place was Green 1200 years ago... much warmer then compare to our days.... When Christopher Columbus came here round 1492, he used a map from an Persian navigator called: Piri Rice, on witch you
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could see Antartica with i'ts lakes and rivers, North America, shore land with it's rivers and bays... There was Jesus Christ times with the Romans, then not much we know, then the Renaissance to our days... Could we be recovering from a short ice age that ocured during the 950 to 1000 years period ? Yes we pollute way too much, we destroy our mother earth more and more every day for the sake of profit, natural ressources extraction, employement... The very social economic life system we live in is a big mess; it crashes every decades; I've seen the 4 last one first hand and loose big every time and curiously those who caused the crashes always came out wealthier..... Think about it ! At the begenning of the 1900 , Nikola Tesla, father of the electricity service we all use today wanted to transmit the power through the air by an enormous transmitter antenna; The Morgan mister who financed him at the time was'nt willing to let go of the mines , transforming industries and wire manufacturing industries that were growing at the time . We like to beleive that we are free people living a free country, when we are in reality slaves of an economic system that controles each and everyone of us. The original Chart of Freedom and Liberty that was the foundation of our great country is beying tossed away for " National Security " reason against the bad old terrorrists of the world.... But then, who is attacking whom ? President Bush, son, once said " Soon we will be able to do " PREVENTIVE WAR" isn't the war itself that has to be prevented at all cost ??? Do we have Iranian or Irakian Battle ship close to our territorials seas ??? No but a big part of our armada is over there.... Why ? Even when it is not loking well , we must still hope for the best to come because when every one on this planet will think the end is coming, it will come for the simple reason that we accepted it . Hope for better days, dream for better days, watch them coming and they will come...
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Yaacov Jul 10 2012 at 6:46 AM
Mseeker! The reason why Grønland (Greenland) was named Grønland, and Island (Iceland) named Island, was this: Iceland was not only green, it also carried strategical importance to the danish King. Greenland was - as we know it even today - covered in snow and ice = not so interesting for the danish King (as such). So how to keep the rich and green island to yourself (the King)? Well, simply by calling the green island for Island (Iceland) thus signalling that here was a place which was cold and
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not interesting for others :-). And the name Grønland (Greenland) signalled a green and interesting land to conquer... Quite amusing, I think :-).
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Lofty Apr 05 2012 at 6:00 PM

Greenland and Iceland were named so to confuse travelers, or referred to as such by confused cartographers....Greenland WAS NOT a green pasture island 1200 years ago...you are just stupid.

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History student Mar 17 2012 at 12:46 AM

Just to clarify, "Greenland" should actually be called Iceland and vice versa. The Vikings named them such to confuse and avoid other raiders from going to their actually place of habitation, Iceland. So in short Greenland is Icey and Iceland is green. Trust me, it sounds dumb but it is true, look it up.

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Archaeologist Mar 29 2012 at 5:16 AM
Sorry but you are wrong. Eric the Red settled Greenland. He named it Greenland to make it sound like a lush land of plenty to lure settlers with him. The Vikings settled Greenland during a warm period were ice was mainly in the North where the Inuits settled a few decades later. As the weather returned to its normal colder cycle over about 20 years, the settlers experienced extreme hardships with failed crops, livestock starving through the winter and eventual abandonment by their homeland who they
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relied on for supplies. The names of the islands had nothing to do with fooling invaders.
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Lofty Apr 05 2012 at 6:06 PM

Erik named it Iceland, not to confuse invaders, but to confuse potential settlers...He was trying to attract people. There are several accounts of Erik saying this....You are just stupid also, read a book.

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Lofty Apr 05 2012 at 6:07 PM

OOps, relpied to wrong post....gya....the internets!

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llaadi Mar 18 2012 at 3:54 PM

^^^^ That is correct... The misinformation out there is incredible!!

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