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Japanese breakthrough will make wind power cheaper than nuclear
A surprising aerodynamic innovation in wind turbine design called the 'wind lens' could triple the output of a typical wind turbine, making it less costly than nuclear power.
Mon, Aug 29 2011 at 2:47 AM
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NOTE: Some major wind projects like the proposed TWE Carbon Valley project in Wyoming are already pricing in significantly lower than coal power -- $80 per MWh for wind versus $90 per MWh for coal -- and that is without government subsidies using today's wind turbine technology. 
 
The International Clean Energy Analysis (ICEA) gateway estimates that the U.S. possesses 2.2 million km2 of high wind potential (Class 3-7 winds) — about 850,000 square miles of land that could yield high levels of wind energy. This makes the U.S. something of a Saudi Arabia for wind energy, ranked third in the world for total wind energy potential.
 
Let's say we developed just 20 percent of those wind resources — 170,000 square miles (440,000 km2) or an area roughly 1/4 the size of Alaska — we could produce a whopping 8.7 billion megawatt hours of electricity each year (based on a theoretical conversion of six 1.5 MW turbines per km2 and an average output of 25 percent. (1.5 MW x 365 days x 24 hrs x 25% = 3,285 MWh's).
 
The United States uses about 26.6 billion MWh's, so at the above rate we could satisfy a full one-third of our total annual energy needs. (Of course, this assumes the concurrent deployment of a nationwide Smart Grid that could store and disburse the variable sources of wind power as needed using a variety of technologies — gas or coal peaking, utility scale storage via batteries or fly-wheels, etc).
 
Now what if a breakthrough came along that potentially tripled the energy output of those turbines? You see where I'm going. We could in theory supply the TOTAL annual energy needs of the U.S. simply by exploiting 20 percent of our available wind resources.
 
Well, such a breakthrough has been made, and it's called the "wind lens." 
 

 
Imagine: no more dirty coal power, no more mining deaths, no more nuclear disasters, no more polluted aquifers as a result of fracking. Our entire society powered by the quiet "woosh" of a wind turbine. Kyushu University's wind lens turbine is one example of the many innovations happening right now that could in the near future make this utopian vision a reality.
 
Yes, it's a heck of a lot of wind turbines (about 2,640,000) but the U.S. with its endless miles of prairie and agricultural land is one of the few nations that could actually deploy such a network of wind turbines without disrupting the current productivity of the land (Russia and China also come to mind). It would also be a win-win for states in the highest wind area — the Midwest — which has been hard hit by the recession. And think of the millions upon millions of jobs that would be created building a 21st century energy distribution system free of the shackles of ever-diminishing fossil fuel supplies. 
 
It's also important to point out that growth in wind power capacity is perfectly symbiotic with projected growth in electric vehicles. EV battery packs can soak up wind power produced during the night, helping to equalize the curve of daytime energy demand. So the controversial investment currently being entertained by President Obama to pipe oil down from the Canadian Tar Sands would — in my utopian vision — be a moot point.
 
It is indeed a lofty vision, but the technology we need is now in our reach. And think of the benefits of having our power production fed by a resource that is both free and unlimited. One downside often cited by advocates of coal and gas power is that wind turbines require a lot more maintenence than a typical coal or gas power plant. But in a lagging economy this might just be wind power's biggest upside — it will create lots and lots of permanent jobs, sparking a new cycle of economic growth in America.
 
Editor's note: Want more info? Karl breaks down the math in his next post.

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anonymous
Sign the Petition Feb 05 2012 at 2:02 PM

California voters have a rare opportunity to shut down their nuclear power plants! www.californianuclearinitiative.com

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Guest Feb 15 2012 at 4:02 PM

and why would you ever want to shut down a nuclear power plant? im assuming that you have absolutely zero clue as to how a reactor operates, have no knowledge of nuclear engineering, and have no idea what kind of safety protocols exist that govern how a plant runs. until you go to school and really learn about it, then you should keep your mouth shut and let the people who have gotten the degrees determine the fate of the plants, not the ignorant public.

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Mseeker Mar 16 2012 at 1:24 PM

I know a little about the nuclear , but I see what is happening when something goes wrong.... As it happens from time to time...

See son , this is a gun and it is made to kill people or animals. It is loaded so do not play with it, leave on the shelf ... When the unwanted happen's " I told him not to touch it !!! Damn It !!!

But then it's too late... Fukushima, it's too late, Chernobyl... it's too late.. How many other that we will never konw about ?

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Guest Mar 12 2012 at 9:35 PM
How about you consider the aftermath / garbage left over from nuclear plants...you know the stuff that stays dangerous for 100's of thousands of years? The stuff we've been considering keeping in a mountain that sees water rise in it as well as mild tectonic activity (and I BELIEVE) volcanic activity in the recent past (geologically speaking) (Irradiated volcanic ash sounds like a wonderful thing, right?). The stuff that could very well in the future kill your great great great great great great
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great great great great great great great grand children? (You could probably toss a great deal more 'greats' in there if you feel jaunty). Or how about the fact that Nuclear plants only have an operative life of about 30 to 40 years before the entire plant becomes so irradiated it has to be decommissioned and is unsafe to work in. This leads to large amounts of radioactive materials that CANNOT be reused in anyway shape or form, as well as the VERY EXPENSIVE cost of deconstructing the plant and storing the now deadly materials it was made of. I'm not saying nuclear power is the worst thing in the world, but the way we harness it is irresponsible (in most cases) and could be VASTLY improved upon if the correct lines of research are pursued. For example, as far as I know, we've done next to NO research on breeder reactors, which can run for HUNDREDS of years on a single dose of fuel because they use that fuel to continually create new radioactive material to run the reactor upon, rather than needing a constant and frequently changed supply of fuel. You speak like you're an expert on the subject but I seriously doubt you are as you offer no real information and just spend your time attacking someone else. So by your own logic, shut up.
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Guest Mar 11 2012 at 11:31 AM

Apparently the safety protocols at Fukishima were not enough. The people with the degrees were not able to put humpty dumpty back together again. So who is it that has ZERO clue?

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Guest Mar 06 2012 at 9:28 PM

Unfortunately, the people who have the degrees mostly work for the nuclear proponents.
Existing safety protocols are at best a bad joke, as shown by Chernoble and Fukishima.

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Guest Mar 11 2012 at 11:57 PM
Go and read about how Chernobyl actually happened before talking please. The entire accident was entirely human error while performing a potentially dangerous experiment and they overrode the very safety protocols that would have prevented it from happening. Fukushima was entirely an issue of old 1970's reactors that were ready to be put off line thus having not been built to nearly as high of standards as we have now and location along with one of the largest natural disasters we have seen in
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modern times. Are there places a nuclear power plant maybe shouldn't be built? Of course, that does not rule out the use entirely. Lastly please go and look up Thorium and see how it essentially removes all the negatives we have now with Uranium/Plutonium powered reactors. We have had access to much safer nuclear power for a verrrrrrrrrrrry long time, you just can't make weapons grade material from Thorium so we put all our eggs into the Uranium basket.
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Guest Feb 24 2012 at 2:43 PM

right...like Japan? With our aging nuclear power plant and no clean, safe, and efficient waste disposal methods existing yet, this is not a technology that is worth considering. There are safer and more refined methods of developing clean energy that should be invested in.

Don't be an ass - especially when you do not know the information yourself.

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Jeff Feb 01 2012 at 6:32 PM
"U.S. with its endless miles of prairie and agricultural land is one of the few nations that could actually deploy such a network of wind turbines without disrupting the current productivity of the land (Russia and China also come to mind)" And, you know, that little place called Canada.... Also, "And think of the millions upon millions of jobs that would be created building a 21st century energy distribution system free of the shackles of ever-diminishing fossil fuel supplies." Ok, let's think about
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them: What are these jobs? It certainly wouldn't take millions of people to construct these things, and once they're up, those jobs would be gone anyway. And it also would not take more than couple thousand (at the very most) people to maintain the turbines. So where exactly are the "millions upon millions" of jobs coming from? Closing mines puts people out of work, so does closing the thousands of oil refineries and shutting down all the transportation systems that move fuel/coal around. I love the idea of moving away from oil as a fuel source and onto legitimate sources of power like wind- but please clarify your statement with some concrete examples.
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Tia Jan 31 2012 at 7:12 PM

Other than a brief mention of noise being a problem with wind turbines, in general, they failed to talk about noise, vibration of this new design. Hopefully, sound & vibration can be compatible with the enjoyment of all living creatures. It is extremely important.

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Anonym Jan 18 2012 at 1:00 PM
Sorry in advance, but someone has to say it; most of these posts are half-baked with poorly thought out ideas, and half-brained notions of how energy is generated, stored, and distributed. Furthermore, the oversimplification of the economics of energy in an article like this just serves to make any discussion about it meaningless. It just goes to show you that one-sided thinking is absolutely bad (whatever faction you come from) and that meaningful discussion only happens when many points of view
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are weighed against eachother. And no I am not suggesting that all points of view are equal in all things.
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wineman Jan 15 2012 at 8:52 AM

Wouldn't it be nice if the wind lens could be added to all existing wind turbines in the US? Doubling current annual generation capacity (43,461 wiki 2011 3Q) to 86,922

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Admirer of Rick... Feb 22 2012 at 9:29 PM

Duh......

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A wind skeptic Jan 14 2012 at 12:22 AM

I thought wind power was a great idea... Until I understood that on the hottest day in America, the winds were silent. Good luck with that, there isn't enough storage to make up for a 75% + drop in generation on the peak demand days.

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James Smith Joã... Jan 13 2012 at 6:47 AM

I suspect the reason this will not happen is because too many large corporations are making too much money from the status quo. "If you wonder why something is the way it is, find out who is making money from it being that way."

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Leslie Jan 11 2012 at 6:52 PM

Why wasn't this discovery made in the United States? Where is our investment in green energy? Our investment should be educating our children for the world of the future and invest in infrastructure, we have the means. we just need the will!

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Doctor Hydrogen Mar 07 2012 at 10:00 PM

It looks so simple doesn't it. I wish I though of it first.

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jhs Jan 10 2012 at 4:19 PM
Ignorance is truly bliss.....I aplaud the technology for wid power and certainly agree with its POTENTIAL, just as i believe tidal power, magnetics, and geothermal areas are all 99% unused. And then there is fusion which is nearly unmentioned anymore. However, we are not any where near "dwindling" in our supply of fossil fuels, jobs are made by desires for products and services, and nuclear waste (for my highly uninformed friend) is actually radiated microscopic materials in water for the most part.
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I bet you cannot believe how simple it is to rectify this little problem...start coating all the pipes the water runs through with the same silics technology that coats the space shuttle and your piping degradation disappears i.e. waste free nuclear power. BUT, ALAS! Our wonderful politicians and all-knowing fossil fuel magnates will disallow such things just like the cars that run on water, batteries that wear out in ten yeaers instead of three, tires that last 100,000 miles instead of 40k, etc, What I am saying is your utopia is wishful thinking at best in the short term, but likely to be in play in the long term as more and more "hidden" truths are ferreted out by well-meaning media who actually have a pasion to help mankind rather than "get the stor"!
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RTinDC Jan 03 2012 at 2:56 PM

ZERO CARBON FOOTPRINT. Any other questions?

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Guest Mar 03 2012 at 11:42 PM

Wow. Neato. Are the parts of the turbine made of air? Sounds almost miraculous and unbelievable.

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Guest Feb 12 2012 at 4:14 PM

Yes, who cares?

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Guest Jan 10 2012 at 7:40 AM

It is most certainly not a "zero carbon footprint". Think of the production, shipping, and maintenance that they will require. However, it is absolutely a renewable energy source.

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Gueste Nov 14 2011 at 10:02 AM

There is no end to the ways we can harness wind energy. Your article is clearly out of date. Did you spend more than 5 seconds researching the subject?

There is only one windmill solution for the planet: A planet sized windmill. Two pivot points, one at each pole and one blade that circumnavigates the globe. It would take 24 hours for one revolution, but the power generated would be incredible. Now, that's a crazy idea!

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Scott Jan 12 2012 at 8:07 AM

Care to provide a link, or at least the name of this concept?

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Wayne Nov 11 2011 at 11:00 AM
The author's note that current technology in wind turbine design is more cost effective than coal is just an outright lie. Since this author has a bias towards any "green" technology it's only expected that he would fall for any set of manipulated numbers to prove a point. The truth is that most Americans want uninterrupted power at the cheapest price possible and if wind power could do that we'd be all over it. Nobody wants to pollute the air and water needlessly but no supposed "green" technology
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of any kind has come along yet that isn't nearly double the cost, often triple or more, to the consumer. It's past time for these "green" wonks to tell the truth. Of course that won't happen because that would mean reduced funding and less interest in their new world ideology.
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