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Japanese breakthrough will make wind power cheaper than nuclear
A surprising aerodynamic innovation in wind turbine design called the 'wind lens' could triple the output of a typical wind turbine, making it less costly than nuclear power.
Mon, Aug 29 2011 at 2:47 AM
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NOTE: Some major wind projects like the proposed TWE Carbon Valley project in Wyoming are already pricing in significantly lower than coal power -- $80 per MWh for wind versus $90 per MWh for coal -- and that is without government subsidies using today's wind turbine technology. 
 
The International Clean Energy Analysis (ICEA) gateway estimates that the U.S. possesses 2.2 million km2 of high wind potential (Class 3-7 winds) — about 850,000 square miles of land that could yield high levels of wind energy. This makes the U.S. something of a Saudi Arabia for wind energy, ranked third in the world for total wind energy potential.
 
Let's say we developed just 20 percent of those wind resources — 170,000 square miles (440,000 km2) or an area roughly 1/4 the size of Alaska — we could produce a whopping 8.7 billion megawatt hours of electricity each year (based on a theoretical conversion of six 1.5 MW turbines per km2 and an average output of 25 percent. (1.5 MW x 365 days x 24 hrs x 25% = 3,285 MWh's).
 
The United States uses about 26.6 billion MWh's, so at the above rate we could satisfy a full one-third of our total annual energy needs. (Of course, this assumes the concurrent deployment of a nationwide Smart Grid that could store and disburse the variable sources of wind power as needed using a variety of technologies — gas or coal peaking, utility scale storage via batteries or fly-wheels, etc).
 
Now what if a breakthrough came along that potentially tripled the energy output of those turbines? You see where I'm going. We could in theory supply the TOTAL annual energy needs of the U.S. simply by exploiting 20 percent of our available wind resources.
 
Well, such a breakthrough has been made, and it's called the "wind lens." 
 

 
Imagine: no more dirty coal power, no more mining deaths, no more nuclear disasters, no more polluted aquifers as a result of fracking. Our entire society powered by the quiet "woosh" of a wind turbine. Kyushu University's wind lens turbine is one example of the many innovations happening right now that could in the near future make this utopian vision a reality.
 
Yes, it's a heck of a lot of wind turbines (about 2,640,000) but the U.S. with its endless miles of prairie and agricultural land is one of the few nations that could actually deploy such a network of wind turbines without disrupting the current productivity of the land (Russia and China also come to mind). It would also be a win-win for states in the highest wind area — the Midwest — which has been hard hit by the recession. And think of the millions upon millions of jobs that would be created building a 21st century energy distribution system free of the shackles of ever-diminishing fossil fuel supplies. 
 
It's also important to point out that growth in wind power capacity is perfectly symbiotic with projected growth in electric vehicles. EV battery packs can soak up wind power produced during the night, helping to equalize the curve of daytime energy demand. So the controversial investment currently being entertained by President Obama to pipe oil down from the Canadian Tar Sands would — in my utopian vision — be a moot point.
 
It is indeed a lofty vision, but the technology we need is now in our reach. And think of the benefits of having our power production fed by a resource that is both free and unlimited. One downside often cited by advocates of coal and gas power is that wind turbines require a lot more maintenence than a typical coal or gas power plant. But in a lagging economy this might just be wind power's biggest upside — it will create lots and lots of permanent jobs, sparking a new cycle of economic growth in America.
 
Editor's note: Want more info? Karl breaks down the math in his next post.

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Guest Nov 20 2011 at 7:13 PM
The unfortunate truth is that much of the world is, without damaging technology, unliveable in. It's insanity to live somewhere that needs constant air conditioning ...and to compound that by relying upon technologies that could one day soon prove too costly or burdensome to provide that energy. Sure we could use nuclear power, but eventually, and a lot sooner than you think, the waste products will start to become a burden. Not to mention the cost of the fuel, and the potential for accidents. The
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unintended consequence of cheap energy, combined with the green revolution (which incidentally also requires(d) large energy inputs) is that we have ended up with a world suffering from over population. Conflicts over population movements, water shortages and other problems ... may very well make the energy question moot.
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Guest Mar 06 2012 at 9:41 PM

Unfortunately we already live in a country where air conditioning in homes, cars, and stores is considered essential.
Nuclear waste is not only a very expensive problem, but also is inconvenient, as no workable solution to processing and storing it for umpty-thousand years exists. The only actual reason our nuclear plants are operating is to provide raw material for our nuclear weapons program.

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Alan Nov 12 2011 at 12:07 PM
That's a lopsided statement fossil fuels are hardly relaible anymore and have been subsedised tens billions of dollars every year for decades, are fast running out and repeatadly cause brown outs due to the inability to meet growth demands vs mining times and costs where as a renewable system lasts forseably forever as long as its maintained and has far lower overheads in the short term and moreso in the long term. I understand though with fossil fuels however, lends itself to the monotary paradigm
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which creates ever increasing profits of dwindling resources regardless of the misery war and ecological deprivation they cause, invent any excuse you want it hardly matters anymore the human races wrists have been collectively slashed as we were forced foolhardy towards peak oil/coal/uranium.
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Wayne Nov 11 2011 at 10:59 AM
The author's note that current technology in wind turbine design is more cost effective than coal is just an outright lie. Since this author has a bias towards any "green" technology it's only expected that he would fall for any set of manipulated numbers to prove a point. The truth is that most Americans want uninterrupted power at the cheapest price possible and if wind power could do that we'd be all over it. Nobody wants to pollute the air and water needlessly but no supposed "green" technology
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of any kind has come along yet that isn't nearly double the cost, often triple or more, to the consumer. It's past time for these "green" wonks to tell the truth. Of course that won't happen because that would mean reduced funding and less interest in their new world ideology.
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notnonymus2 Nov 01 2011 at 8:25 PM

Oh and also, good luck keeping that turbine in the picture safe during the winter, I dont see any possibilities for pitch control.

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notnonnymus Nov 01 2011 at 8:20 PM

Dude 1/4 of alaska is like the size of california! What, are you gonna give all the maintnence men camper trucks and 200 gallons of gas? Is that realy that enviormentally friendly? Also, where is all this land? Are you going to destroy national parks and build huge windfarms? Or are you going to kick people out of their homes. Industrial grade wind turbines can be up to 40 stories tall! Talk about defacing the country side!

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Guest Jan 15 2012 at 4:09 PM
OH, so you mean destroying parks like how Fracking poisons the underground water supplies and watersheds that feed cities. Poisons that are known to cause cancers and are endocrine disrupters. You mean how industry pays people a pittance for their mineral rights? How regulations on scrubbers for coal and oil burning plants are so outdated, that they can dump poisons into the air for over ten years before action is taken to correct it. Poisons that rain back down into your water supply. Also
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producing smog that effects everyone in over a 50 mile radius of the plant. Leading to lung cancer, high emphysema, higher illness rates. Any reasonable person, without a second thought would take an "eyesore" against cancer, immune problems and endocrine disruption. Wind power may not be "utopian" green, but it is a much greener solution than what we currently have. Their lubricants may still be poisonous, but in far smaller and manageable quantities than what our current energy industry produces, with the added benefit of not constantly poisoning us. Our power production cannot be solved with a single solution. It will take the multiple forms of power production in a dynamic means to even attempt to solve this problem. Each specific locale needs to have a power solution tailored to it, a combination of water, solar, wind and geothermal working together on a large scale and individual basis, in a decentralized network of power production. Which do you prefer, being slowly and constantly poisoned till it kills you or looking at an "eyesore"? Hmm.
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Guest Jan 10 2012 at 5:51 AM

Not to mention a no fly zone for any living thing.

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Jim from Nova Scotia Oct 31 2011 at 7:46 PM

The Bay of Fundy tides are violent enough to destroy the best engineered tidal turbines. We are working on better engineering.

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Libor Supcik Oct 28 2011 at 5:24 PM

I remember this being 'new' design 10 years ago

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Joao P L Oct 28 2011 at 1:09 PM

Great news.
Hope this will come soon and be duplicated in Brazil too !

Joao P L
http://www.ddi-ddd.com.br

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dr_set Oct 19 2011 at 11:33 PM

Mythbusters used this design for their prototipe of a personal plane. How is this new?

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Andy Anderson Oct 18 2011 at 5:06 AM
So how good for the environment is it to kill all that forestation and fauna that produce oxygen and destroy 170K Square miles or the size of Alaska in Wildlife habitat? Do you not realize this is not green energy but just a power and money shift from right to left supporting industries? You are being manipulated into thinking you are saving the planet for a cash grab while ruining mother earth. Just drive through the wind farms of Cochella/Indio CA or take a look at the new solar farm where animals
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use to live east of Yuma AZ. Stop being fed broken science by power brokers who have no idea how to help solve our problems.
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Stormoftheranch Feb 19 2012 at 5:35 PM

Where does you electricity come from?

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Guest Oct 24 2011 at 3:21 PM

Lots of prairie space not being used for much of anything. You prefer leveling mountains for coal or burrying toxic waste in the ground?

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Guest Oct 21 2011 at 12:32 AM

Do you have any better option? Nothing's perfect. It would be much better having wind farms and solar panels than oil, coal, gas, and nuclear. That's a fact. You're trying to hard to be a hippie.

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Guest Oct 18 2011 at 7:55 PM
I live very near the wind farm in Northern Colorado and there haven't been any decreases in the antelope, bunnies or rattlesnakes for that matter near the wind farm here. Maybe Colorado animals are less sensitive than California critters, but I think all the impacts we have on this little planet are going to effect something. So, I guess you have to ask which is better, pumping tons of pollution into the air, risking a possible meltdown or displacing an animal or two. I guess we could also throw
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in the option of giving up on electricity, but then how would we use computers to discuss how terrible we are as the human race?
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richard g. Oct 18 2011 at 1:13 AM
i just have an idea to throw out there. considering if these work so well, couldn't the same idea be used on a smaller scale to help as a supplement to electric vehicles? 2 or 3 of these downsized device's could be placed between the headlights behind where the grate is that has a grate specially made to allow for maximum air flow. instead of having to use gasoline for when the electric power is too low it can tap into the saved energy used from this. also given the vehicles are moving there can
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be more wind power utilized compared to the devices that are standing still.
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Horace Oct 28 2011 at 1:14 AM
Actually, that wouldn't help too much, I'm afraid. Disrupting a vehicle's aerodynamic profile and adding additional drag-inducers would really hurt fuel economy when trying to get the vehicle up to speed - up past 40-45mph wind resistance becomes a really big issue, and at freeway speeds of up to 80... well, I dunno. A possible solution would be to run the turbines off the vehicle's exhaust, much the same way a turbocharger is run; this might have the undesired effect of adding parasitic drag, but
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one imagines it would be more efficient than an air dam in front...
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Nunya Bidness Oct 11 2011 at 12:21 PM

I'm all for alternative energy, but do the math... The U.S. has 9.83 million km2. If 2.2 km2 is suitable for wind harvesting, then that is just in between 1/4 and 1/5 of the WHOLE country! If you propose 2.63 million wind turbines, then that comes out to more than 1 turbine per square kilometer! Imagine a windturbine every 1000 meters from the Mississippi River to the Rocky Mountains!

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John Feb 27 2012 at 8:09 AM
You don't add the huge storage batteries that would be needed to make sure power was available 24/7. Fossil fuels are stored by nature, so only a relatively small working store is necessary to keep the power plant going. Uranium is so energy dense that keeping about 10 years on hand for a power plant is not difficult. When cheap and reliable electricity storage is available to allow wind power to be supplied when humans want it, not when the wind blows, I might take this one more seriously. The
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way to achieve this is to cancel the requirement to purchase wind or solar power when it's available, and to subsidise storage batteries, not wind mills, with high feed-in tariffs. Wind mills, solar panels etc could sell any power they generated to the storage system if the market price of electricity made it worth their while. I suspect though, that the greatest diminution of greenhouse gas production would come from the ability to run fossil fuel plants constantly at their most economical rate,
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darinselby Oct 06 2011 at 5:22 PM
Migrating birds are not taken into account with this Japanese inventor whatsoever. All the more reason to keep the spinning blade diameter SMALL, decentralized and powering a family household. I've never seen it fail, whether it is centralized windpower, solar, septic, city water, coal, nuclear. ANYTHING that is centralized, and the family unit not empowered to do it all by themselves, is going to destroy the wildlife and their habitat. It's because, when these ideas are scaled up, they're just TOO
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BIG for the ecosystem to get around. What comes next is shredded tweet, and dead bats in LARGE numbers. Scientists designing these monstrosities better wake up and get a clue about their money-making madness, before it all comes back to haunt them, when they and their own OFFSPRING are directly affected by their mega-size contraptions. Just like people getting gold fever, groups of people can allow themselves to get infected with MONEY fever. Never enough, and always piling up larger and larger numbers in the bank. FOR WHAT END? Why are we here on this third rock from the sun in the first place? To make GIANT windpower stations, destroy the ecosystem in the process, and make a handful of people very wealthy? I think not. And it turns out that that size appears to be the family unit. And, as the appliances get more energy efficient, then we won't need near as much electricity to do the same task. Flying downwind of a 100's ft dia. spinning windpower behemoth, this is what happens to their lungs, they EXPLODE. No bats, no pollination, the house of cards comes tumbling down. It is only when they get so large, and the vacuum vortex so great, that it OVERWHELMS anything flying by from escaping its vortexian clutches.
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Guest Oct 18 2011 at 8:10 PM

The sad part of having each household on it's own power source is that the renewable energy people are more greedy than the oil and gas people. That's why it costs so much to install a personal/household solar or wind system on a house. If we can get the environmentalists to quit being so greedy we could all have affordable renewable energy.

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Guest Jan 19 2012 at 8:52 AM

Right On !!!!

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zj Oct 18 2011 at 11:07 AM

I read some studies that show that birds aren't stupid and stay clear of the wind mills. Do you think a bird would really fly through a wind mill? Would you? Birds still would have plenty of space to fly around the windmills. Instead of killing some "stupid" birds (you know the ones that fly into your window) lets just kill the O-zone and all of earth. That sounds like a great idea. If you stupid hippies would stop your nonsense it would be great. THANKS

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