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Japanese breakthrough will make wind power cheaper than nuclear
A surprising aerodynamic innovation in wind turbine design called the 'wind lens' could triple the output of a typical wind turbine, making it less costly than nuclear power.
Mon, Aug 29 2011 at 2:47 AM
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NOTE: Some major wind projects like the proposed TWE Carbon Valley project in Wyoming are already pricing in significantly lower than coal power -- $80 per MWh for wind versus $90 per MWh for coal -- and that is without government subsidies using today's wind turbine technology. 
 
The International Clean Energy Analysis (ICEA) gateway estimates that the U.S. possesses 2.2 million km2 of high wind potential (Class 3-7 winds) — about 850,000 square miles of land that could yield high levels of wind energy. This makes the U.S. something of a Saudi Arabia for wind energy, ranked third in the world for total wind energy potential.
 
Let's say we developed just 20 percent of those wind resources — 170,000 square miles (440,000 km2) or an area roughly 1/4 the size of Alaska — we could produce a whopping 8.7 billion megawatt hours of electricity each year (based on a theoretical conversion of six 1.5 MW turbines per km2 and an average output of 25 percent. (1.5 MW x 365 days x 24 hrs x 25% = 3,285 MWh's).
 
The United States uses about 26.6 billion MWh's, so at the above rate we could satisfy a full one-third of our total annual energy needs. (Of course, this assumes the concurrent deployment of a nationwide Smart Grid that could store and disburse the variable sources of wind power as needed using a variety of technologies — gas or coal peaking, utility scale storage via batteries or fly-wheels, etc).
 
Now what if a breakthrough came along that potentially tripled the energy output of those turbines? You see where I'm going. We could in theory supply the TOTAL annual energy needs of the U.S. simply by exploiting 20 percent of our available wind resources.
 
Well, such a breakthrough has been made, and it's called the "wind lens." 
 

 
Imagine: no more dirty coal power, no more mining deaths, no more nuclear disasters, no more polluted aquifers as a result of fracking. Our entire society powered by the quiet "woosh" of a wind turbine. Kyushu University's wind lens turbine is one example of the many innovations happening right now that could in the near future make this utopian vision a reality.
 
Yes, it's a heck of a lot of wind turbines (about 2,640,000) but the U.S. with its endless miles of prairie and agricultural land is one of the few nations that could actually deploy such a network of wind turbines without disrupting the current productivity of the land (Russia and China also come to mind). It would also be a win-win for states in the highest wind area — the Midwest — which has been hard hit by the recession. And think of the millions upon millions of jobs that would be created building a 21st century energy distribution system free of the shackles of ever-diminishing fossil fuel supplies. 
 
It's also important to point out that growth in wind power capacity is perfectly symbiotic with projected growth in electric vehicles. EV battery packs can soak up wind power produced during the night, helping to equalize the curve of daytime energy demand. So the controversial investment currently being entertained by President Obama to pipe oil down from the Canadian Tar Sands would — in my utopian vision — be a moot point.
 
It is indeed a lofty vision, but the technology we need is now in our reach. And think of the benefits of having our power production fed by a resource that is both free and unlimited. One downside often cited by advocates of coal and gas power is that wind turbines require a lot more maintenence than a typical coal or gas power plant. But in a lagging economy this might just be wind power's biggest upside — it will create lots and lots of permanent jobs, sparking a new cycle of economic growth in America.
 
Editor's note: Want more info? Karl breaks down the math in his next post.

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anonymous
radioredrafts Sep 12 2011 at 4:17 PM

Any ideas how all these turbines will affect cloud formation and precipitation? Any ideas at all?

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Guest Sep 14 2011 at 10:31 AM

about as much as a couple large trees would...

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Guest Sep 13 2011 at 7:03 PM

Any idea how modern levels of carbon emission affects the weather? It's hard to imagine wind turbines will have a significant effect compared to air pollution or cities and highways.

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s katz Sep 12 2011 at 9:42 AM

It's good to see a functional model of this enhancement put to use. Change is going to take a combination of technologies, wind, solar, geo thermal, conserving and using energy wisely .. so many steps we could take, and we are too slowly adopting.

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William Wilgus Sep 11 2011 at 11:20 AM

No breakthrough, it's just a venturi surrounding a windmill. They've been around for many, many years.

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Bob Scoff, PE Sep 10 2011 at 9:31 PM
First, the electrical energy used in this country was 3.953 Billion MWHs in 2009, not the 26 Billion MWHs claimed in the article. Refer to the U. S. Energy Information Administration / Annual Energy Review 2009. Maybe the 26 Billion MWHs is the total energy from all sources used in the country. If so, this needs to be clarified. Second, there is a new way of generating electrical power from moving water. It is called Hydro Kinetic Power by the US Energy Administration. The device is called "
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The Greene Turbine" and information can be found on the "Greene Turbine" website. Just be sure to spell Greene with the "e" at the end of Green.
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Pete Sep 07 2011 at 3:35 PM
Yippee! Now I don't have to woory about getting CFLs or LEDs, right? Nothing comes without a cost, so I would be cautious before chugging too much Utopian Absinthe about it not impairing my driving. Wind power is essentially a kinetic form of solar energy, therefore we will be extracting kinetic energy from the atmosphere and oceans. It's not rocket science 101 to infer that this will eventually impact wind and water currents, and I've seen interesting preliminary data associated with land and water
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wind farms that is generating an increase in soil erosion, dust storms and their water based cousin, fog banks in Europe. The third law of thermodynamics guarantees there is a cost someone, although it will likely take time and scale to reveal impact and trends, Personally, I am not opposed to exploring new and alternative technologies as long as real economy of scale and value is validated. All I'm saying is with skepticism any time anyone mentions utopian - none of are flying to work on jet packs, we are not going to live to 1000 or even 150, and we haven't been to avert the most mundane of catastrophes in the form of train crashes - have we?
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PNS Sep 07 2011 at 10:34 AM

Ok, 2.6 million windturbines would probably take up the area of Wyoming or Montana. Does anyone every look at these "reports" before they are published? Plus these things will work only about 25% of the time. Not a viable source of power at all.

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Nunya Bidness Oct 11 2011 at 12:33 PM

Actually, to fit 2.6 million turbines in Wyoming, there would have to be 1 turbine every 10 meters over the whole state. To fill Montana they would be spaced out every 15 meters. For both Wyoming AND Montana there would be 1 turbine every 24 meters in every direction as far as the eye could see...

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Guest Sep 07 2011 at 1:36 PM

You would need about 2200 of these to replace a coal power station. (Based on 600 US coal plants generating 54% of US power).

A coal power station can take up to 3000 acres of space (Gibson Generating Station - Wikipedia).

The wind turbines could be spaces fairly far apart and take up far less space than the coal power stations, not even considering the space taken up by coal mining.

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Guest Sep 15 2011 at 6:38 AM

Yeah, right, and the produced energy needs to be transported further, which yields LOSSES! Devil is in the details!

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Bike Sep 08 2011 at 4:54 PM

Coal power accounted for 43% in the most recent EIA report.

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bradshaw Sep 07 2011 at 2:04 PM

 
2200 in 3000 acres?   Each of them is only 200 feet apart?  Isn't that sort of crowded for a wind farm?
 

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Guest Sep 07 2011 at 11:31 AM

Wind turbines are powering most of Austria and southern Sweden, so they are a viable source of power.

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Guest Sep 08 2011 at 7:19 AM

well... no! Austria gets 4% of its annual energy consumption from wind, our main energy source is water.

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bradshaw Sep 07 2011 at 12:11 PM
  Austria gets about 68% of their energy from hydro, with plans to raise the total from renewable energies (I guess that includes windmills) to 80% by 2020.  Windmills hardly "power most of Austria".  Even if they achieve their goal they will only be getting 10-15% of their power from windmills, and 20% or so from non-renewables. Check out this post from the Prague Post I would say though that Austria is on their way.     Sweden gets about 2% of their power from wind but that is growing.  They
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would like to get their total renewable power up to 50% by 2020.  So Sweden still has a long way to go.    Guess where the rest of the power for these two countries come from.        
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Yourhealthyplan... Sep 07 2011 at 3:30 AM

This is another amazing example of humanity entering into a "comprehensive design revolution" (not a military or social revolution) and when we get behind it and support it fully we will create ten billion billionaires on-board planet Earth within as short a time as ten years. Thank you all you wonderful engineers, scientists and social entrepreneurs.

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Tree Thunderchild Sep 06 2011 at 6:46 PM
The more individuals who learn to use wind and sun to make their own power, the more innovations will improve. What humans know, is less than what there is to know. I dont use large turbines, think of your power requirements, then divide that into 10, for 10 smaller turbines. Problems? What a problem with a big turbine? Or a small one? One goes out your not out of power. It's less expensive to get experience, and you can always add on more (to the roof of your garage etc). I take new small turbines
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apart and alter them to get 4 times the power. I dont think its that hard, that most people can do this, but they dont take the time to learn whats going on, so 'they' can control it, alter it, for their own needs. I've been doing this around 40 years. I'm on low income, so I make my own, this recycled computer is powered by recycled materials turned into wind turbines, batteries from the landfill, used and recycled solar panels (I'm on low income). But thats whats been powering this laptop for over 3 years without having to start my backup gas generator. The $ not going to large corporations (even if large scale wind turbines) was spent in my local community, instead of given by the many into the hands of a few. Around $148,000, back into my local economy. If you want motive, beyond clean, green, and leaving the planet cleaner than I found it.
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Lenny Sep 06 2011 at 11:54 AM

Sounds like fascinating technology. I wish we could participate in this new breakthrough in the state of Wisconsin, but our governor Scott Walker has made it almost impossible to invest in wind energy. He's very backward and caters his energy decisions to energy special interests who finance his campaigns. We're hoping we can recall the moron but that will take some time. Until then I hope the rest of the world enjoys clean, abundant, green energy.

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dad4495 Sep 07 2011 at 3:43 PM
 Tell me about it.  I joined the Wisconsin Solar Energy Society back in '78 or '79, and so little came of it all. Watched as WindWorks was bought out by Wisconsin Electric and then killed. I think the climate is changing for solar and wind now, and the next few years should tell the tale. Wind innovations along with this in H2:http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/206395/20110831/new-alloy-to-revolutioni... will change everything and make my work in promoting biofuels obsolete.  But at least there is
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hope now to get away from a tar sands future :)  
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can't escape from it Sep 06 2011 at 8:53 AM

I wonder where the fallout came from in ice at the Antartcic. I guess no one died because of atomic testing at Maralinga and the nuclear fallout did not effect the east coast of Australia between 1956 & 1959 or Chernobal didn't contaminate the Danish Farm land when that nuclear reactor went on unauthorized holidays,I hear there is some bargain real estate close to the site enough for a large city why is it not used.and why is not Bikini Atoll a tourist destination

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Anon a Mouse Sep 06 2011 at 11:27 AM

Bikini Atoll is a tourist destination. Because of all of the ships that were sank there during post-WWII atomic bomb testing, it has a lot of wrecks to explore for Scuba Divers.

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Guest Sep 07 2011 at 11:45 AM

You can visit but can't live on Bikini Atoll. Radiation level still so high.

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me Sep 06 2011 at 8:20 AM

I find the positive nature of this article refreshing and although we may not be able to depend on wind only, wind combined with solar, hydroelectric and geothermal is more then dependable.

Also, oil gas & coal can be just as unreliable as the wind. Oil rigs blow up, and dry up. And no matter what the debate is focused on: environment, economic, etc, all of these sources will someday run out. Why wait?

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anonymous Sep 06 2011 at 5:42 AM

Where did the 90mwh price for coal power come from?Your imagination! That isn't even close ! Try 20Mwh. The wind does not blow everyday,you cannot store the electricity. Try presenting the facts not distortions.

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