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Where do we go from here?
NGO alliance leader Kelly Rigg weighs in on the climate movement in the U.S. vs. China and what is needed to make a shift.
Fri, Sep 24 2010 at 1:15 AM
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Global Warming, Climate Change, Climate Talks, Climate Policy
This week I had a chance to sit down with Kelly Rigg, the Executive Director of GCCA (the Global Campaign for Climate Action) and TckTckTck during Climate Week NYC for an informal conversation on the state of affairs in the current climate negotiations, the differences between China and the U.S. and what the future looks like for the climate advocacy movement. Here are her thoughts:
 

 
Copenhagen raised global awareness around climate change, but are people actually doing anything to make a difference?
 
We are seeing increasing numbers of people writing in to our different partner organizations asking what they can do. People want to make a difference. They realize climate change is an issue that is really going to affect their lives, and their families’ lives. They feel somewhat powerless to get their governments to do something about it, so they’re starting to take matters into their own hands reducing their own emissions wherever they can.
 
But I have to say at the end of the day, personal efforts are only going to take us so far. Until governments create the necessary incentives for industry to put their investments into the right places, we will probably never have enough action to turn this thing around. So it needs to be a combination of both personal and political action.
 
People need to take action. They need to change their light bulbs and power down their appliances… all those things we have the power to do. But people also need to let their government representatives know that they want them to take action as well — politically.
 
With the heads of state meeting in New York this week to discuss, amongst other UN initiatives, the climate commitments pledged in the Copenhagen Accord, will we see any significant progress in international climate negotiations?
 
I think one of the most difficult problem with the Copenhagen Accord now, leaving aside the problems with how it was negotiated, is that the U.S. continues to suggest it’s an all or nothing package deal — that they are not going to move on anything until the complete package is acted upon. At this point a lot of countries are looking for the U.S. to move first. In particular because the U.S. has asked to be exempted from the kinds of commitments that everyone else is being asked to make.
 
The U.S. is talking about 17 percent reduction on 2005 emissions, not the 25-40 percent commitment on 1990 levels that the IPCC says is necessary. This is something like a 3 percent reduction on 1990 levels compared to the 20 percent commitment that the EU has made. So the U.S. asks for special treatment while at the same time suggests they won't move until others do. That rubs a lot of countries the wrong way.
 
I think that what needs to happen is that in particular the U.S. must signal it will meet those commitments it made, and do it unilaterally — not on the condition that they will do so only once everyone has signed up to the complete package. That’s not helpful and will not stimulate a breakthrough in the negotiations.
 
What’s wrong with climate perception in the U.S.?
 
The politicians are the ones lagging behind. They have a misperception that the electorate is not interested in climate. A Thomas Friedman column this week talks about the difference between the U.S. and China on climate. In China, climate change spells J-O-B-S and in the United States it spells J-O-K-E.
 
 
I think the public is being scandalously misled in the U.S. Because of the divisions in our political system and the vitriolic debate between Democrats and Republicans, people are just being shamelessly misled. They’re being told that global warming is a hoax by powerful lobbies in Washington and unfortunately there are certain network news stations and radio stations that feed that propaganda and misinformation. At some point I have to believe truth is going to prevail. The fact is there is not a trade-off between jobs and solving global warming. In fact doing so is good for the economy. People are being lied to, and until people start getting the real information things will not change.
 
We need more politicians to be leaders, telling the truth and encouraging the country to do the noble thing. This needs to be validated by other respected leaders and then it will become a more serious issue in the U.S. Civil society has a role to play as well, reaching out to people who have not previously been engaged on the issue and speaking to them in meaningful ways. And we need to put pressure on our political leaders to stop being held hostage to fossil fuel industry lobbyists.
 
Is there a country where we’ve seen a major public rally on climate issues?
 
How about Australia? In the previous election a new government came to power with climate change as one of its major agenda points. Then the prime minister reversed himself and people got really, really angry that their government let them down. That was part of the downfall of Kevin Rudd. It’s still a major issue and the recent success of the greens in this election shows that the public wants action now on climate. Australians are on the front lines of climate change — they are facing major problems with drought, for example as a result of global warming. People are a lot smarter than politicians think, and once politicians catch up to where business and the public is on climate, things could change very quickly.
 
What’s the outlook for China in the upcoming climate negotiations this fall?
 
After the Copenhagen debacle, China took a lot of blame which I think was scandalous. Most of the developed country governments that were there must share the blame for what happened. And the U.S. played no small part. But China can play a much more constructive role. In particular China has been reluctant to embrace the 1.5 degree temperature rise target. There are more than 100 countries that have supported that target for the very survival of low-lying countries that are most vulnerable to the impacts of climate change. China I think needs to listen to that and play a strong counter-role to the kind of laggard behavior being shown by other major economies.
 
It is important to recognize that China is doing a massive amount on renewable energy. They are now in the lead in the clean energy race and they should get a lot of credit for that. Per capita greenhouse gas emissions are far lower in China than the U.S and while they are developing quickly they have the opportunity to set an example.
 
The UNFCC Intercessional in China provides an opportunity to communicate the fact that China is ahead in the “Race to the future” and that other countries need to get with the program. They can cry all the way to the bank and complain about “command and control” economies, but at the end of the day they are going to lose that race if they don’t mobilize now. That could be the game-changer, for people around the world to see in China what a massive investment in clean energy technology really looks like.
 
What gives you hope?
 
At the climate week New York opening ceremony, all these heavyweights in business and finance stood up and talked about fact that the technological solutions are here. Amazing things are going on. Last year, for the first time more than 50 percent of new electrical power installation in Europe was from renewables. That's an amazing milestone! There’s a road map in the EU which says we can get to 100 percent renewable electricity supply by 2050. People are getting on with it and doing it, and there is now a public appetite for change because of increasing concerns around climate change.
 
If there is a will to do it, it will happen. It’s the political will that’s missing — a game of brinksmanship. Once we have that, everything will fall into place. Look at the Americans in the race to the moon or the national mobilization during WWII. Once Americans make up their minds to do something, they roll up their sleeves and make it happen. We need to see that spirit in Americans on climate and tap into that innate sense of American heroism. They can do it. They can save the world while ensuring long-term economic growth in a low carbon economy.
 
NOTE: I'm currently working with GCCA in support of their digital media initiatives.

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anonymous
33noa33 Sep 28 2010 at 5:35 PM

Use mighty power of nature
In the northwestern Australia, we have huge tides,
huge deserts, huge evaporation and huge dry rivers and lakes.
Huge 12m tidal erosion can revive old dry paleo dormant once mighty rivers, creeks and lakes,
desalinate the country and change deserts to rain forests to provide more rain across Australia
World population is growing rapidly and we need more land, energy, food, water.
see: Mitic CLIMATE ENGINEERING

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MotherLodeBeth Sep 24 2010 at 9:47 PM
I admit I get livid at how 'green' has become a new cottage industry where $$$$ is to be made, while good old common sense like we grew up with in the pre 60's is ignored. Didn't need an 'Earth Day' in our home to be reminded to not let the water run when doing dishes or brushing our teeth. Our parents would get on our case and tell us we were wasting water. Same with being told to turn off lights in rooms we were not using, since Dad didnt like paying some big company for electricty if he didnt
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have to. Didnt have and still dont have a walk in closet, because we were taught to only have clothes that would be worn often and until worn out. Only time the car was used was when we drove as a family to school and parents to work, where we were dropped off according to who was first. Small refrigerator and not food went to waste. Never worried about cans and glass in the garbage since we rarely bought anything canned and glass jars were reused for canning more fruits and vegetables. Had one small tv set and still have one small tv set not one in most rooms as so many today. Still live in a rural area where we arent cursed with street lights. How many McMansion have we seen in ads that note they are 'green'. Ignoring the fact that green or not they still take up more natural resources. Rather than rave about electric cars how about we rave about people who drive very little and city folks who use mass transit? How about we applaud folks wherever they live who live a less is more way of life, rather than push ANY kind of materialistic lifestyle?
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Rajan Alexander Sep 24 2010 at 7:18 AM
Global warming hysteria, whose gravy train INGOs and environmental organizations jumped into for the last decade or so, has run its course. Climate alarmism is dying a slow and painful death. Here are some telltale signs that it is in its deathbed, grasping for its last breath: 1. Re-branding exercises We live in this age of advertisement where if something isn't working, the first remedy is often to change the offending name. Repeated attempts to re-brand global warming are one of these. Global
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warming first metamorphosed as “climate change”. This worked for some years but such was the gross misuse and abuse of the term that the public soon developed allergic to this term too and thus the desperate search for an alternative term in the last few months. Some alternatives recently floated are “climate weirdness” and “climate disruption “, the last coined by President Obama’s Science Czar John Holdren. Read more: http://devconsultancygroup.blogspot.com/2010/09/for-climate-justice-acti... It’s not only sceptics that have raised our flags of victory. George Monbiot, the journalist czar of global warming, of the Guardian, just conceded defeat in his latest blog "Climate change enlightenment was fun while it lasted. But now it's dead" Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/sep/20/climate-change-negot...
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Meme Mine Sep 24 2010 at 5:17 AM

Where do we go from here? We admit the CO2 mistake, stop scaring our kids with needless panic and address the real crisis. over population. Birth control, not climate control. Pollution was real. We get it. Grow some!

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Orkneygal Sep 24 2010 at 4:47 AM
The overwhelming paleoclimate evidence from around the globe is that the Medieval Warm Period (MWP), the Roman Warm Period and the Minoan Warming were synchronous, world wide and much warmer than today. However, the MWP deniers, such as the IPCC, US EPA and the UK’s MET Office, will never admit the existence of the MWP because it means that their religious-like belief in AGW is exposed for the steaming pile of junk science that it truly is. In total, climate change is complex and not well understood.
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But this part is simple. Since the world was warmer when CO2 levels were lower, CO2 cannot be the earth's temperature regulator. In the past, the Earth was warmer than it is today; before the social and industrial advances that have made modern people the healthiest and most prosperous in history. MWP deniers want us to believe that plant friendly and life giving CO2 is a bad thing to better advance their meglomanical desire to both boss around the developed world and further impoverish the poor while pocketing a lot of taxpayer money along the way. Useless, misguided attempts to control carbon are not the answer to the ever changing climate.There is only one answer to changes in climate that has ever worked for humanity. That is adaptation. One of the many links to the overwhelming Paleoclimate evidence of the global nature of the MWP is below. http://www.co2science.org/data/mwp/mwpp.php More information http://www.c3headlines.com/temperature-charts-historical-proxies.html
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