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Electric cars are quiet. Maybe too quiet.

Automakers are devising unique sounds to let the blind and other pedestrians know that EVs are approaching. But should you be able to customize your own 'cartones'?

Wed, Oct 14 2009 at 4:41 PM EST
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SOMETHING HEAVY THIS WAY COMES: The Fisker Karma has speakers in the bumpers for safety sounds. (Photo: Harry Nl/Flickr)

 

“When a piece of heavy equipment backs up, it goes ‘beep, beep, beep,’ and everybody knows what it means.” Thus speaks Nancy Gioia, Ford’s director of global electrification, about a growing controversy over whether electric vehicles (EVs) should emit sounds to let the blind and other pedestrians know they’re on the scene. She thinks those sounds should be standardized, so you’ll think “something heavy this way comes” when you hear it.
 
Some car companies much prefer the idea of creating their own sound, and samples emulating the Blade Runner cars and the Starship Enterprise have been proposed.
 
I wrote a New York Times piece on this that appeared today, and as I write it’s the 13th most emailed story at the paper. I guess people really get caught up in the possibilities of this. If car owners can just get control over the process and customize their sounds, the “cartones” industry will be born, and soon people will be spending tens of millions of dollars on them.
 
There are an amazing number of possible pitfalls. Can you imagine using Rick James’ Superfreak as your cartone, and then waking up your neighbor when you get home from a party at 3 a.m.?
 
This is a serious subject, though. Plug-in hybrid cars and battery EVs are super-quiet, and a study at the University of California, Riverside concludes that people listening to recordings on headphones can hear a regular gas car coming from 28 feet away, but a hybrid in battery mode only when it’s seven feet away. Yikes!
 
The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and the Society of Automotive Engineers are working on standards, and the Pedestrian Safety Enhancement Act, introduced in both Houses of Congress this year, would require a federal safety standard to protect pedestrians from ultra-quiet cars. Jenny Rosenberg, a spokesman for Congressman Edolphus Towns (D-NY), said the bill has 140 co-sponsors in the House.
 
Another key question: Should the driver have control of the sound (sort of like a horn, only quieter), should it be on all the time, or should it shut off at, say, 20 miles per hour? Versions have been proposed that take all these approaches.
 
I think that, ultimately, there will be safety-related sounds from EVs and plug-in hybrids. My guess is that they will eventually be standardized so your mind will automatically register “electric car” when you hear it. And that’s probably a good thing to reduce the mayhem on the roads.
 
We want your opinion: Give us your ideas of what the sound should be, and we'll deliver the 10 best reader ideas to the car companies' marketing departments. (We've got connections.) Just post your suggestion in the comments section below.

 

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kashif shahzad 10/31/2011 15:56 PM

The experimental results are 4,500 pedestrians die already and repeating the sound experiment with hybrids and expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity.Fractional Ownership

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stavky 07/31/2011 05:26 AM

I like the vroomtones idea! I also like the idea that as speeds increase the (assumed) need for extra noise decreases. I'm also hoping that the ambient noise level would be less (and directed forward?!?) than that of current internal explosion vehicles.stavky

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Rob 10/27/2010 01:08 AM

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Michael lenis 11/04/2009 02:55 AM

We are entering a new era of clean transportation, one of the BENEFITS is lowered noise congestion in urban areas.Why on earth should we be adding noise to these vehicles. Its ultimatly up to the individual for his or her own safety. Remember what your mother taught you "look both ways before you cross the street". Come on people!!!!

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wrtmania 10/28/2009 14:32 PM

I like the vroomtones idea! I also like the idea that as speeds increase the (assumed) need for extra noise decreases. I'm also hoping that the ambient noise level would be less (and directed forward?!?) than that of current internal explosion vehicles. Failing the above, I'm votin' for the sound of the Jetson's 'cars'....

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Ivy 10/20/2009 21:23 PM

Why a good ideas like ELECTRICAL CAR has to come in company of an idea that silly like this sound of insanity??? buuu that sounds gonna get us even more distracted......

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yogacraig 10/17/2009 18:43 PM

The sound of one car moving should be the sound of one hand clapping. I know its radical, maybe people could just pay attention.

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Kenneth Sherrill 10/17/2009 09:19 AM

I think they should all sound like the cars in the Jetsons, i have always loved how those sounded... kinda soothing...

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Guest 10/17/2009 08:31 AM

Its called a horn...people step out in front of buses because they aren't paying attention. People should look both ways before crossing and drivers should be paying attention to blow their horn or maneuver. This is the stupidest idea I have ever heard. Why is the world full of retards?

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Omar Stoltzfus 10/16/2009 18:44 PM

Here in Arizona we've taken perfectly good freeways and paved them with rubberized asphalt. Why? To reduce traffic noise. Most of the noise coming from cars is due to tire noise. Pedestrians almost always have the right of way. Perhaps drivers should just hangup and drive!

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BJL 10/16/2009 17:39 PM

Remember playing cards in a bicycle wheel? It won't disturb the neighbors if you come home late, but it would cause a pedestrian to take note.

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Monica 10/16/2009 15:53 PM

I do not agree that cars need to make noise to keep pedestrians safe. Perhaps putting a sensor on key intersections to signal oncoming traffic would work for those who are visually impaired.

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Vintagesquirrel 10/16/2009 14:30 PM

I suggest a soft "swishing" sound, similar to the sound of the wind rustling through trees. Also, the sound should start real soft and get louder as the car accelerates.

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Pinkrose1_1999 10/17/2009 01:57 AM

Though I would think more along the lines of the wind an object creates as it is moving through the air. Like when you ride your bicycle and the wind rushes past your ears as you go along. I am so tuned into that noise being associated with any car that I am always looking over my shoulder for cars when I ride my bicycle, and that is the noise I listen for when I walk. I also listen for tire noise, but that depends on the ground surface and the weather conditions, unlike the artificial wind.... More

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Jeff McGuiness 10/15/2009 19:40 PM

I like the sound of Vroomtones. Phones Ring and Cars Vroom. When I say Cartones I feel like I am saying cartoons.
My wife didnt know what the heck I was talking about. She then said, "Oh Vroomtones". I said yeah thats pretty cool huh? She said "If mine can sound like a horse trotting that would be cool"
I agree. As long as they turn off after 12mph or around there and there is a mandated level of sound. I think its fine. I live in the city and no one regulates the harleys that shake.... More

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Guest 10/17/2009 00:36 AM

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Barbara Swail 10/15/2009 16:20 PM

Spend a day in Munich or any other large European city and listen to the soft pleasant swishing sound the cars make. DO NOT LET INDIVIDUALS CUSTOMIZE THEIR OWN CAR SOUNDS. That way lies madness and road rage.

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Melissa 10/15/2009 14:19 PM

Enter your comments here A Giant Bumble Bee sound that is somewhat "mechanical". The sound has to change pitch because some folks cannot hear various ranges. We are conditioned to be cautious around a huge bee.

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Green Bean 10/15/2009 13:56 PM

I really can't come up with anything that would not just get on my last nerve over time...besides the normal sounds of an engine....maybe just make it buzz a little louder!

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Ron Koenig 10/15/2009 13:39 PM

Any kind of white sound would be good. If the user could select the sound, that would be nifty. There should be a limit on how loud the sound can be, and no messages (said or sung) should be allowed.

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Dave Crowlie 10/15/2009 11:38 AM

First choice: the sound of flowing water. Second: cheapest would be to amplify the whirring noise of the electric motor.

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CoCreatr 10/15/2009 10:34 AM

How to protect pedestrians (especially those with headphones blaring) from - gasp, pant - ultraquiet bicycles? Or a Segway approaching? Easy: You don't. Less easy: just unplug and hear the "pling!" Or shout.

Approaching in a car? Gas, electric, hybrid, warp drive, no matter what: be ready to brake and - honk for danger.

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Denise Lawrence 10/15/2009 00:46 AM

Enter your comments hereA Lot of the cars here seem to be making TONS of noise as it is from their basses booming music and shaking the windows of my house. I'm sure there is some pleasant sound that could be emitted.......

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Bob Wilson 10/14/2009 19:24 PM

We are already testing sound emitting cars with today's gas-only vehicles. The experimental results are 4,500 pedestrians die already and repeating the sound experiment with hybrids and expecting a different result is the very definition of insanity.

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GeenGirl 10/14/2009 19:38 PM

You're right that regular old cars make a whole bunch of sound and yet thousands of people are hit by them a year. But I do think there needs to be some warning that they're coming. I used to live in Portland, OR and our light rail was great...but they had trouble for awhile with people getting hit by the train simply because they didn't know it was coming. I think they ended up adding some sort of sound to it....though I'm not sure what.

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Anonymous 10/14/2009 19:15 PM

The Enterprise is a pretty heavy object. How many people would ignore the sound of a continent-sized starship hurtling toward them?

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Momof2 10/14/2009 19:33 PM

but a 2000 pound song bird might get your attention.

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Pamela Drake 10/14/2009 18:46 PM

...perhaps the top bird per state (based on how many cars are sold in that state....regions could compete.)

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Max Davies 10/14/2009 18:48 PM

it'd give birds a bit more power in the world....ignore the sound of a bluebird or cardinal and you'll be flattened.

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Phil Signet 10/14/2009 18:38 PM

...the sound of affluence? Because that's about the only people who can afford these cars.

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