Stands back from the keyboard in amazement! Thanks!

Ok just to clarify some things trucks can get great gas mileage if you want them to. I had my 87 dodge dakota with a 5.2L V8 engine dropped into it and got 26 highway and 18 in town, then i got my 93 ford f150 with a 5.0L v8 in it and got 24 highway and 16 in town, which sorry to say is better then my 01 ford mustang with the 3.8L v6 and my wifes 02 pontiac grand am with the 2.2L I4 ecotech motor.

Where's the Prius on your list? You dummies are only looking at operational phase of the vehicles. Even if the C02 lie was true, Hybrids are a total abomination to mamma gya. Full of rare earth metals that are brutally toxic to the environment, featuring radioactive waste among several other poisonous substances, makes gas only economy cars look like freshly planted trees next to a Prius.

If some one were to produce a vehicle that I could drive that, that I did not have to tout around 26 gallons of an explosive; which is sixteen times more powerful than dynamite. And still be able to tow my 30 foot travel trailer and not cost 100,000 to purchase, i would by one

Glad I've fnially found something I agree with!

I have been seeing Miles Per Gallon (MPG) being pluralized more and more in both television and print advertising lately. MPG is already plural (notice the 's' at the end of the word 'Miles'?). In our new language-butchering text happy world we are forgetting the basics with increasing momentum. Pluralizing MPG as "MPG's" is both grammatically and technically incorrect! Do modern schools teach the basics any more??

YOU ARE CORRECT I THOUGHT IS WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO STILL BELEVES IN PROPER USE OF WORDS .

I think whoever wrote this article did not do enough research. Take a look at the Toyota Prius. What impact do the batteries have on the environment? This car is one of the worst cars for the environment. When will society come to realize that battery hybrids are not the answer?

If you have the money to buy most of the cars you dont care about the environment

I own a 2009 Chevy Z71 2500 HD,it gets 10 MPG at best but I knew that it was'nt going to be good when I bought it. Now I only use it to tow my camper and my car trailer and I have drove it about 500 miles in four months because of the gas prices.I bought a 2007 Canyon for gas mileage and now I paying for the Z71 that I can't drive because of the MPG but I love the truck so maybe the gas prices will come down so I can drive it more. If your going to dance you have to pay the price.

obamas energy advisers said long ago they desired Americans to pay $7 to $8 @ gallon and these prices are being kept artificially high to force less driving on Americans! We could easily bring gas prices down considerably if the will of the people meant anything to obammi.  These dictators are rich and will never be hurt by prices, they care nothing about working Americans!

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Mexico is in America....North America. The USA is not the only country on our continent. Just a clarification.

Enoviromental impact is not always reflected by how many MPG's a vehicle gets, but how the car is producted. Materials used, shipping methods, longevity of bateries, ect. So a few years ago Univ of Conn, did a study regarding the impact on earth the Hummer H2 had in comparison to the Prius. Prius has better Gas millage, but a 3 year replacement on Batteries, and production methods created more problems to the earths health then the H2. check out the findings on http://hubpages.com/hub/Prius

SPower :

RE: "..I well never let my kids in a car i ...." {sic}

In addition to the obvious ( can not type, spell or use the English Language}

It's a shame that you ever HAD any "children" at all. By the time they are old enough to escape your very-make-believe-world in which you've withdrawn, they'll be so badly-scared that it'll require years of intensive Therapy for them to become normal, productive Adults!

staying safe isn't just a matter of driving the biggest car (and these big cars are very harmful when they hit others). its a matter of driving safely...and being considerate.

Probably 90% + of the utility vehicles are driven by housewives running the errands, yuppies trying to be cool, or the best one, short guys with a complex.
I used to use these for work vehicles while I was in college. You can't beat them if you have a job to do. Sadly, though, most are driven by dweebs wanting to appear cool as they drive back and forth to work. How many times have you been cut off by some broad yakking on her cell phone driving one of these?

my car has a rotary engine one of the worst offenders hands down! i feel bad when i scream past a prius or civic hybrid. i will own a hybrid or electric vehicle when they stop looking stupid and gain some real performance

My Avalanche is getting about 13.5 city and 17 highway with the active fuel management system. I bought it fully knowing what the milage would be. However i can't pull my 25' camper with a Volt or Prius. So what you chose to drive is a choise we all have to make.

Horse and buggy!!!!!! and shovel (for the poop) be like the Amish, just get a freaking horse. or a oxen to pull your wagon. and don't forget your buggy whip.....

I love my Ford truck extended cab 4x4 .....I don't really care about gas mileage when it comes from getting to where I am going with the cargo I have with me....I don't stop to "plug in" when I want power he is there and living in Michigan there has been no amount of snow I can't get through....

i drive a gmc yukon xl denali v8 and a ford f150 saftey is the most important thing about a car i dont care what those greenies say im protecting my family in those cars

I put 9 in my suburban when going on vacation and still get 17 MPG or 153MPG per person.

I GET 56 MILES PER MPG AND I HAVE MORE MONEY THAN YOU ON MY PRIUS

Ain't no such thing! Besides which the young man was referring to a 350 chevy stroker motor, which is usually called an SBC383 to aviod confusion(although most motorheads know the difference!)

Agree 100% except it's not just misleading it's deception, it's a blatant lie.
Also for the comments regarding the "batteries are recycled", we already know this. As previously mentioned it is the manufacturing process of the batteries that hurts the planet. Which means of course every time the battery is recycled the manufacturing process repeats. You can't compare the typical car or truck battery to the mammoth sized electric car batteries.

Am 17 years old i have a 1979 chevy k10 pick up with a 383 stroker i get 15 mpgs i work hard 2 jobs to pay for gas and price of livein plus school if i diint have my truck i wouldint be able to get to school or work snow get 4 1/2 feet deep in town i love my truck i pull cars out all the time god bless

Really?? The 383 hemi was a heck of a good engine but it was made by dodge not gmc As for driving in over 52 inches of snow on the road maybe with a snowmobile but not with a 4x4 even with oversized tires maybe if the snow was powder and could dust up driving in it

and yes a 383 is a mopar but some have put them in others maybe he should have said that...NOW for plowing 52in or 4 and 1/2 feet of snow. NO! sorry i do snow runs and with 2feet or 24in your diff gets packed with snow and you stop plus its really heavy not going to happen please we have enugh bull on here so please dont lie your not getting a date thanks but no thanks

Yes Mopar made a 383. What the man typed was a 383 Stroker which is a very well known Chevy engine. For all the super intelligent car guys here I am surprised that it is unknown to you. A Chevy 383 is a 350 Chevy bored and stroked (different crank w\ longer connecting rods).

I'm the hypocritical greenies worse nightmare. I own a full size truck to pull my V8 powered ski boat and haul around my 4 kids, wife and dogs. I also hunt, and fish and don't recycle cans. I also listen to Limbaugh and Hannity.

The Toyota Prius, whose batteries contain toxic chemicals that far exceed any other vehicle.

Where do those used up batteries go??
Toyota's "green" car is a hypocryte!

I could add simply that the green car is for the most part an illusion. On that note two things come to mind 1.) You can't blame a person for trying to do his\her part when it comes to our environment. 2.) An old adage, A fool and his money will soon be parted.

There are so few of these things out there that they don't even account for a speck of pollution across the vehicle spectrum. You might as well include go-carts and riding lawn mowers, since those are infinitely worse polluters. Veyrons are investments and garage queens and are rarely driven. In your lifetime, you're more likely to see a do-do bird than a Bugatti Veyron.

I notice the speedo in the graphic passing 120 mph...I was doing 120 the other day in my V8 Mustang, which also can get up to 28 miles per gallon. Suck it greenies!

Here's a guy with a American V8 and a sense of humor. Long live the American HP V8's

ride a bike sure it takes longer but it will get you there without polluting the enviroment

How about pollution from making the bike? Or when you oil the chain or replace the tires. Pollution is everywhere. Its unavoidable.

Not only did earlier cars get as good mpg's they did it without car computers. We the people have paid dearly over the years. The extra cost added to the cost of the car, The huge amount of additional maintenance cost. Can you imagine probably in the billions of dollars by now because of the little yellow light called check engine. All for what? Gas mileage for the most part is unchanged. Feel ripped off?

I agree that pollution is everywhere, but I disagree that it is unavoidable. That is, if it's possible for one to get to their destination by bike or by walking as opposed to driving, then they have polluted less. It's tough because it seems that no matter what we do, we pollute in some way. We, however, can work to reduce the negative impact.

I love it when people try to defend their foreign cars by saying made in USA.
Where do the profits from the made in USA Toyota's go. It would be my guess they get shipped back to Japan with the next shipment of our scrap steel so they can make more car parts to ship to the USA so people can say made in USA.
BUY AMERICAN before unemployment hits 15%

How about all the CO2 you're exhaling when riding that bike.

See, now I can respect that, you put your money where your mouth is. I may not necessarily agree with your ideology but I can respect that you're willing not step up and not be a hypocrite.

ride a bike sure it takes longer but it will get you there without polluting the enviroment

Suzuki builds a car that will give 50 MPG hwy and no batteries. Why does no one talk about cars like that? Because it is small and Americans refuse to give up big cars.

Unfortunately, not every American family can give up a large car even though we want to be enviromentally responsible. I have six people in my family (four children) and we simply do not fit into a Suzuki. Any good suggestions would be appreciated since we are in the market for a new vehicle.

Buy my Truck it will acomodate 9 people, no problem divide miles per people, it is not that much right ?

I have owned my 2002 Ford Excursion since I bought it new and it has been a wonderful vehicle. I have five kids ranging in age from 6 years old to 17 years old and this truck fits our needs very well. The size and weight provide extra security and it is very roomy. I can live with the 14 miles per gallon that the diesel engine produces. Long live the Excursion!!

Excursion rocks. Tree huggers can walk. I'm riding in style.

That's not cool.

Thank you for your compelling argument. I just hope everyone takes the time to read it all and actually think about it.

Dear Leslie, Thank you for taking the time to read my comment, it was a long one! I just feel that this problem is far larger than just the car we chose(or are FORCED to chose) to drive. Every action we do has had an impact on the world, though I dare say Mother Nature can cope, until we start altering the courses of nature. It is then that we need to be mindful of our actions. Enough said. Again, thank you for taking the time. Sincerely, W.B.Ernst

prius should be at the top of the list. The ni-cad battery it uses can't be recycled just thrown away so it can leach deadly chemicals into the ground water.

This group gave a rating based on fuel efficiency from what I can tell--not overall environmental impact. So, while these might be the mean dozen when it comes to fuel efficiency--that doesn't indicate the list would be the same based on a broader spectrum of criteria.

I am 37 years old and have had multiple cars,trucks,suv's, and bikes. The only thing I've ever driven that gets single digit mpgs is my rig. So if you've ever gotten single digits out of your cars you are doing something seriously wrong.

It was the early 70's I had a 1964 Plymouth Sport Fury with a 426 Max Wedge (factory 2 4bbl) with a 5:13 posi rear end. Believe me I really don't think I was doing anything wrong @ 8mpg

The ozone is fine, that hole is a vent, just as u would find in greenhouse. For example the earth is a big greenhouse, the planet uses the "greenhouse" gases to produce oxygen. It's called photosynthesis, read about it. There is no such thing as global warming! U should be trying to protect something that really needs to be protected like unborn children or even urs, from being brainwashed by our government just as u were. Get real!

It's mostly a hoax. Just now people are starting to catch on to it. For those who haven't done your home work look up "Iron Mountain Report". It pretty much gives you the roots of the green movement.

prius should be at the top of the list. The ni-cad batter it uses can't be recycled just thrown away so it can leach deadly chemicals into the ground water.

profits go to japan your part of prob

so true

It is refreshing to see that some people think about their surroundings rather than take, take, take. I applaud your inspiring rhetoric.

Dear Humble in Washington, I was suprised to see any feedback from my comment. I was sure it would fall to blind eyes, with all the hatefull comments that filled the page. Nice to know I,m not the only one out there that can see the big picture. Again, thank you for the kind words, Sincerely,W.B.Ernst

I usually like to acknowledge good ideas from sensible people, It seems to me that if more people would get out of their own way and look around themselves, they might be amazed. Perhaps even calm down a bit in order to live a more posive way. Inspiring mental awarenes and general common sense is good. Any day I can help increase the plus side of things is a good day. Chin up instead of head down is a good policy I feel too

It seems totally out of place to include trucks in this list. I have a Nissan Titan that I must be very gentle with to get 14mpg around town and maybe 18mpg highway. But I didn't buy the truck for good gas mileage. No one else does either. I bought it to pull a 7000 lb travel trailer for camping vacations. Can't pull 7000 lb trailer with a Prius.

Nice. The only cars on the list are a bunch of American Products or extremely high end European imports. Is it any wonder Japan is killing the US on the market.

Well I love my F- 250 Modified w/ straight pipes , 6 inch lift, 37 inch tires mud grablers I wouldnt have it any other way....

Nice. The only cars on the list are a bunch of American Products or extremely high end European imports. Is it any wonder Japan is killing the US on the market.

I LOVE my Ford Excursion. Yes its a guzzler for fuel but this truck is solid and powerful. I wish Ford still makes them because it is one hell of a truck. Who said it's too big for the garage? Mine fits perfect and I don't have a huge garage. Ford Please bring them back.

Wow! People here brag about 20 mpgs on the "highway". Thats crap. Most of the time they are getting single digits. Domestic cars have always been the most inefficient. Specially this big so called SUVS. Our ozone layer is being ruined. Soldiers are giving up lives overseas for gas prices. No Thanks. I will keep my US made Toyota.

What is worse? Buying a car made in the USA, where people here have jobs or buying an "American Car" that's made in mexico or canada!!!

USA made Toyota? I love it when people say that. Tell me, where do the profits go from the sale and maintenance of your USA made Japanese car?

I suppose made by Ford in Mexico is better?

ensambled in Mexico is the best

A bunch of cars 95% of us can't afford, then work trucks. Seriously, that's your list. OK, one of the suggestions was to buy a GMC Canyon instead of of the Chevy 2500. Right, let's see a Canyon pull a farm trailer. Face it, the majority of people buying work trucks are using them to WORK! That means they have a JOB! Now, where are the keys to my Ford F-250?

My solution is not popular, but effective. Reduce the population, reduce the impact. Over fishing, overcrowding, to many emmissions, all stems from too many folks.

Sure. Lets start reducing the population......I just LOVE to hear you say that. One suggestion though. Start with yourself. If you "Too many people" folks would just kill yourselves first, we wouldn't be "overpopulated". Lets see some REAL commitment for you fools. Otherwise......SHUT UP!

If only the green freaks realized that in the manufacture of electric cars the mere manufacturing process of the battery itself causes more damage to the planet on day one than the common car does throughout its entire life span. Do the research!

Wow you guys are cool I spent a cool 2gs on my 94 integra best car I've owned I had a 89 suburban and it was nice but I'm 16and it's perfict for getting around

have a full size v8 truck 4950 pounds gets 17 mpg i also have a toyota 4cyl 23 mpg 2800 pounds do the math the v8 does a lot better then the gas hog toyota 4 cylinder it should get 46 or more split the trucks cylinders and weight and 35 mpg hmmm

Years ago I owned a 6cyl `65 Ford Mustang 27mpg and also a 2bb V8 `71 Olds Cutlass 22mpg. Note that both of these cars were pre-emission control and obviously pre car computer. We the people have been BS'd over the years!

It sure isn't a 40' 3-axel toy hauler 5th wheel loaded down with 4 kids, 2 adults, quads, dirt bikes or snow mobiles. I will take my Dodge Ram 3500 megacab dually. If you can afford to buy the vehicles listed you can afford to gas them. God Bless America and our freedom of choice!

Might i add that the electric cars will need their batteries replaced. That will probably cause more of an impact on mother nature than running fossil fuels!

Really all you tree huggers need to quit taking things for granted . Thoses trucks your bad mouthing are the back bone that probably built your home. Also building america. Provide us with a battery powered truck that can pull 2 1/2 to 3 tons and maybe you wont sound so stupid

I have 2 evil cars on the list. Serious serious serious.

I work for a company that supplies high-end electronic starting material. We have had the technology and ability to produce solar panels, batteries and the engine to have cars that run off of sun light. We just haven't been able to break the trade, legal and investment barriers controlled by the oil companies. 3 of the 5 biggest companies in the world are oil companies and have been destroying technological progression in this field for a very long time.

Bob the Chemist is right. Let's not forget the Salt-water Conbustion engine design in 1952, bought by our own Government, never to be heard from again......

I have owned an excursion for 6 years..have had no real problems mechanicaly....but it has the 7.3 l diesel engine, and on my trip from fl to mn I got 23.8 miles per gallon on highway. you cant pull what I pull, you cant haul what I haul(kids)...its my cow pullin, kid haulin, grocery gettin stylin truck. put that in your prius and smoke it.

i have this car for 9 years and get 20 miles per gallon, it's been a beautiful car for this old lady, it's safe to ride in and we just feel safe when we go out onto the freeways. God Bless Ford for this one.

I so agree with you 100%. Don't you wish Ford would bring them back?

We don't need gas guzzler's on the road..I don't want a Prius either, but there are other choices available..I am not saying we don't need trucks...but, we are a nation of waste! Yet, we would rather fight for oil (to make your gas for that expedition) than, cut back. Do you really need to transport 8 all the time?

Let's see that Civic or Prius haul a 24' boat back and forth to the boat launch. Ohhh....boats are probably bad too! Big trucks and SUV's are made for a reason people....deal with it! Family of six in one of those little s*** boxes would be rather uncomfy!

You know not all of us have the typical american families ( well what they say it is).. house in the burbs, 2 cars, 2 kids.. I want to see my family of 6 fit in a prius OMG can you say clown car. At least I can fit my family and one or two of my kids friends. So if I owned a "prius" we would have to drive 2 cars everywhere.. is that better? But, even if I didn't have such a large family I would still own my Expedition.. dont stop to fast in front of me I may run your little itty bitty car over.

Nope. Can't fit your family of 6 in a Prius. But you could easily fit them in a Highlander Hybrid, get twice the gas mileage and not feel like the victim whenever anyone talks about how bad your vehicle is for the planet.

Just sayin'...

BE AMERICAN BUY AMERICAN
Eat your rice burner

We would love to buy a smaller "green" car. However, I am partially handicapped. There are times I have to use an electric scooter. We also travel a lot.
Which one of the new cars would allow luggage and my scooter?? We own a '98 Nissan Quest,purchased new, It has a lot of miles. We take really good care of it. Not much out there for us to even look at.

get a bike.

Without trucks the economy would grind to a halt. Several of the huge work pick up trucks on this list could run on biodiesel, so take them off. Society in fact needs these vehicles, it's undeniable.

We have a big family that likes to go camping, we also have a farm. A pickup is a necessity. Don't call me when you need to haul something. Just put it on top of your little economy car. If we can afford the gas, we will drive it. I once had a bad wreck, A lady ran a red light and I hit her. The fireman at the scene told me I was lucky I was in a big truck or I would have been hurt a lot worse than I was.

I WILL KEEP THE HORSE POWER AND YOU CAN STICK YOUR BATTERY POWER!!

Gimme my Turbo Diesel any day of the week. Who is gonna haul ur beef and pork to market.. and ur corn ,wheat,greenbeans,watermelons, etc Some of us like to drive Trucks for fun.. Get a little mud on the tires

Hybrids can do the Job! Freight trains are basically a hybrid Minus the battery. The diesel motor of a train only makes electricity that runs electric motors. So if a train can do it, your little pick-up can do it. The problem is American have a problem conceptualizing that a 3500 or 4500 rated truck can run on a smaller motor than a v-8 or v-10. Frankly a briggs and stratton 10 horse generator can make more than enough volts to run a car, or truck.

Keep driving a big truck that come with pos pushrodv8 that engine design is so old if u use ur truck for work that's a different story but for ppl that use trucks for every day use are stupid in my opinion I drive a prius its a good car its has a lot. Of Space gets good mpg why buy anything else

I will keep driving my big truck with a V8 that is so good why change? Life is to short to be cramped up inside a small car,it could be much shorter if the driver is on their cell phone pulls out in front of this big V8 TRUCK!

shut up stuck up prius guy i like drivin trucks and idc

If anger is a bi-product of fear, the real question is what are we afraid of?

AMEN BROTHER!!!

When toyota makes a 1 ton four wheel drive prius, I will buy one.

Ford doesn't run pushrod engines the 5.4 and 6.2 are ohc. If your prius weighed 7500lbs it wouldn't get great mileage either. I have an old dodge diesel 4x4 that gets 25mpg and weighs 8200lbs, mechanical injection, no computers essentially its 70s-80s technology yet I get better mpg than most "high tech trucks"

Uhh, because we have lives and live them and we like our vehicles to stop. When a prius crashes they call out the hazmat teams to clean up all the lead acid leaked from batteries. Great trade off.

Great comment!

Take a look at the land where they build these batteries you love so much. Quit being sheeple and think on your own.

ask yourself one question, WHERE DOES THE ELECTRIC COME FROM? Also, how far would people go if you had to charge up your electric cars every 50 miles, and take all night to recharge?

Of all...ALLLLL... the cars that you could have picked, you pick te Veyron. Yes it has crappy MPG but it has such small numbers of production it will hardly even scratch the surface. Stupid hippies.

Oh J. Just for the record, Hippies were about Love and Peace and HARMONY with the world. We are the smart ones who understood the pitfalls of the near future. Hippies were proactive, Enviromentalist are reactive. It's a shame that the finger pointing starts, instead of facing the true problems that effect this country and the world.

Your saying hippies were about Love and Peace and HARMONY with the world those are your exact words actually. BULLSHIT...bunch of stoned picses of shit. Look how many of our own sodiers you treated like crap when they came home from putting a blanket of freedom down when you sleep at night. go f yourself.

Amen to that!

you go to buy a new car and you think hybrid. hard to find, priced higher than its equal that is not hybrid, and the trade in value is not there. Studies(all bunk and junk)

No matter what u people said my avalanche is my best friendly truck

Really Fred. Give it a rest.

i have driven just about everything on 4 wheels what chaps my bottom is when people talk go green they focus on vehicals yet noyone is going after these plants which is one of the biggest reasons for pollutions once again americans are beleiving what they are told. if your worried about going green wright the bp mobil exxon shell (opec) tell them to bring that carberator back from late 70's that guarenteed 60 miles to the gallon. they bought it.

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i cant spell worth a crap but there are things i can do better then you or others but I dont rub that in your face or other ASS!

Please excuse my two mis-spellings, I should have proof read my own post

any american car that has a 4 or a v6 suck, the only good american car is the one that has a v8 engine, ford has a good past, if you are talking about a v8 engine, but, FORD topaz, tempo, escort, fiesta, DODGE , CRYSLER, THEY SUCK

Great post!!

We watch everyday the price of gas go up. Do you know why? The big gas companies know we will pay it. So why would they go back down on gas prices. My father drives a gas tanker for a living and his business hasnt slowed down. So woutld you like to see them drop. Buy cars that get better gas mileage or back off on those joy rides it your choice.

as for us ford chev and dodge lovers we get the same milage as you do by 1-3mpg and when are's brake down we do not have to sell are young to pay for it. or get a 2nd job. and we are keeping more people here in the great usa working so move to japan i hear its nice this time of year.

foreign cars and trucks are better and all you country music loving losers that drive fords or chevies or dodges are going to see more of them...keep saving your pocket change for gas you poor, uneducated, pitchforker hicks.

Right, and you just keep on feeding those workers a bowl of rice a day. Only reason you dont buy American is you cant afford it. You like that stuff so much, go over there and live, but wait, they are all coming over here and only because we are the greatest country in the world. Bet you would run to Canada if we still had the draaft.

Im one of the dodge driving hicks you referred to. I have a 2500 diesel that with minor modifications I get 25 mpg and produce less emissions than a lot of gasoline engines on the road. Plus I produce my own fuel for less than one dollar per gallon. Not all of us are uneducated, neither are you and yours obviously. But don't be upset when my engines rolls a million miles easy, you and your third or fourth car by then will remember the good times in your other cars that died :/

look i sold cars for almost 10yrs and there are good and bad in all makes but i have seen more amercan cars going strong and doing well but if you buy american or japan or france made cars TAKE CARE OF IT. its not that hard to see. we all can get good years out of are cars its call PM if you dont know what that mean your a bad car owner so google it.

With all the plastic in a Prius and all the acid rain from producing the batteries, which only last 8 years, the net pollution to the environment is worse than a Hummer

If you love your foreign cars so much go to Japan & live. I have had American cars for over 50 years, have never had a bad one yet. So take your crappy foreign cars & shove them. BUY AMERICAN, BE PROUD OF OUR LAND AND OUR PRODUCTS. DON'T BE A TRAITOR

Most American cars are not even built here anymore. They are put together in Mexico or Canada. Toyota, Honda, KIA, and now BMW assemble cars here so would those be considered American?

When I bought my car, I was surprised how hard it was to find a "true" American made car. My Nissan gets good gas mileage, has a great safety rating, has plenty of room for five, was assembled in Tennessee, and my tax dollars won't be baling the company out when they missmanage their assets.

Although the production of the batteries for Prius isn't as efficient as some would hope it is not true that the net pollution to the environment is worse than a Hummer.

most U.S.cars are crap.I have owned 2 in my life(I am 60)
those 2 cars are the only ones I ever had problems with.
Do NOT buy american cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I have always owned American cars. (I am 62). I have gotten good service from them all.
Driving an American car is better than flying the American flag.

My 2000 pontiac is still running strong and nearing 100k miles. Only work done (besides oil and tires) was to replace a master cylinder that died at the 5yr mark.

100k miles, really? We should long ago have gotten past the point where that number represents longevity. I drive an 84 diesel benz with 1/3 of a million miles on it and get 30 mpg. In europe, 100k miles is barely broken in.

The gov. cannot subsidize,we are broke.

most U.S.cars are crap.I have owned 2 in my life(I am 60)
those 2 cars are the only ones I ever had problems with.
Do NOT buy american cars!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I would take a big American Pick up truck any day over a foriegn made car anyday!

Just do me a favor and find out where your big american pick up truck is made. You might be surprised.

THERE YOU GO, IF YOU LOVE YOUR HUMMER DRIVE IT. THAT'S WHY YOU BOUGHT IT. I LOVE THEM, ALSO THE AVALANCHE. IT'S YOUR MONEY, YOUR TRUCK. SO ENJOY

Ford F250.

my big, badass, American pickup has an American made frame, body, engine, transmission, and axles and suspension, and was put together in a Chrysler plant in Saltillo Mexico

I would take a big American Pick up truck any day over a foriegn made car anyday!

The reason so many environmentally friendly "green" cars & other items fail is that no one wants them except Ed Begley & his ilk..Al Gore has a private Jet, Mansion and chauffeur driven limousines all paid for by fuzzy headed greenies...

wastte of time but politically correct for an idiot however it appears par with the jobs outsourced and the load of lies of the last 4decades.

I was going to post an argument on the article, but then thought... why? The opinions of greenies really do not matter to me, nor do their ramblings sway my opinions. Frankly, they just do not matter so why argue?

Y'know what? A new M-1 Abrams Tank gets about 20 gallons per Mile. Why aren't they on your greeny list? A motorized Crane gets about 4-5 Miles per gallon. Why aren't they on your list? The answer is simple: These vehicles serve a specific purpose. Pickup trucks only get 14 to 18 MPG because they have big engines. They have big engines because they have to work hard. Put a 4 banger in an F-150 and it would be about as worthless as this greeny rating!

thank you for say that i have 3500 cummins and hull up to 20,000 lbs and still get 16mpg and 20 plus without the trailor and i blow coal anytime i see those throw it in your face greenies

Now, now, Do your parents know u forgot your helmet today?

Mustn't be so venomous. It's only a discussion about being a true American versus being a communist, tree hugging, environmentalist fag.

Oh, god. Did I just type that?

I meant a discussion about acknowledging our responsibility to the community verus being mental midget with his dick under the hood of his pig mobile.

Oops! There I go again.

The government should take more money from the private company's ad subsidize more failed ideals.

The United States Constitution gives us freedom and freedom means responsibility
check it out!

Please...for the love of GOD, please go get cancer. Do us all a favor (and the environment, if you're so interested in saving it) and leave this earth.

I guess the conservatives along the mississippi who are unplugging and destroying the levees along the mississippi are your kind of people, to hell with the people who were smart enough to have homes out of harms way now you want to destroy others to save a few

I wish you were true to your word and wouldn't have checked on your ridiculous tirade. Instead you top it with a sick cancer comment a few hours later. Please do us all a favor and just keep your opinions to yourself.

the attitude of you greedy conservatives, if it weren't for the liberals like washington, jefferson, franklin, and the mighty revolutionary army you would not have the rights you have today you would be drinking tea with the queen. Liberals dare to live and let live
and even you greedy irresponsible ones your are wrong about one thing you will not always have that sports car. it will soon be taken away from you due to the sic philosophy you espouse.

Yahoo News, you are morons. People that need a Chevy Cargo Van cannot use an electric piece of crap that will run out of battery power if they have to drive 300 miles. Furthermore, a person who has a large family and chooses a Chevy Suburban or a Dodge Megacab probably cannot use a Volt for anything other than a jump start. GET REAL!

I hear ya'. I drive a Megacab and I LOVE IT!!! It's my little home away from home when I travel. Yes I have put the back seat down and blown up an air mattress.

The VW golf Diesel gets 50 to 55 mpg and it doesnt need all those batteries. It is a proven fact that if 60Percent of the vehicles on the road today were diesels we wouldn't have a gas shortage or need foriegn oil...

What a suprise not a single Japanese vehicle on there even though Toyota/Lexus have Large Gas Guzzling V8 trucks & SUv's right along with Nissan/Infiniti. Wouldn't want to write an unbiased article now would we ;)

Everyone slow down, stop driving like you own the road and stop driving like everyone is in your way. Youll burn less gas, lessening the demand for it which equals lower prices and less pollution. Stupid bas-terds, I cant even go to work, drive 5-10 mph over the speed limit and not have one of you ise-holes try to drive your vehicle up mine. I need to slow down too, I admit it.

Everyone slow down, stop driving like you own the road and stop driving like everyone is in your way. Youll burn less gas, lessening the demand for it which equals lower prices and less pollution. Stupid bas-terds, I cant even go to work, drive 5-10 mph over the speed limit and not have one of you ise-holes try to drive your vehicle up mine. I need to slow down too, I admit it.

Why don't you just get a job and buy a decent car and let those of us who choose the enjoy the American way of life alone. You dumbasses are the reason gas costs so much and why I always choose plastic at the grocery store in hopes of pissing you dumb son's of a bitch off.............

common its the gov

common its the gov

Wow you are full of anger and hate and so incredibly ignorant about the world its amazing. Choking to death on your piss and wind while having a coronary and a heart attack at the same time is not a great way to go. Try and get a life and not worry so much hahahahaha

If you weren't following to close no stones would hit you. The LAW in most states requires a 2-4 second gap . SO BACK OFF before someone stops short and you rear end them....Your insurance will NOT cover the repairs and you will get SUED....

spoken like a true ignorant piece of crap

Even a 1959 Volkswagen Beetle creates enough velocity to laungh a stone into the windshield of an on-coming car. I think a 1939 Steduebaker would too. I had an Airedale Terrier that would run in front of me when I rode my horse; and his toenails would dig up enough earth to pepper my face.

Really? You cannot see the difference between the automobile and human beings. You actually put cars in the same logic sentence as human beings. Wow!!!

Really? You cannot see the difference between the automobile and human beings. You actually put cars in the same logic sentence as human beings. Wow!!!

spoken like a true ignorant piece of crap

all tree huggers think they know everything, thats why these idiots buy Prius's, BTW 1 Prius causes more pollution to make than it does to own one for 40 years so, think about that next time your nutting in a tree

That is why the Prius is a very popular care. My niece bought one of the very first ones. How much pollution do you think is produced to make other vehicles and they keep on producing it.!!! You stink try nutting a skunk.

let me educate you a lille bit. the reason they cause much more pollution in the long run is because of the batteries used, not the car itself. the nickel for the batteries is mined in ontario, then shipped to china to make a foam out of it, then its shipped to japan, then back to the U.S. all of that means that a hummer can be on the road for 3 times as long as a prius and cause less pollution. please, at least educate yourself next time before running your mouth about your misinformed opinion

eat your own shit you nazi shithead

comparing protection of the environment to exterminating jews makes you look like the backwoods shit you are. do us all a favor and kill yourself and your family

I live in florida and we have lifted trucks everywhere and I have never had an issue with stones breaking my windsheilds, I'm willing to bet your one of those people that rides on everybodies tailgates

Pretty basic rule of thumb: If you have stones hitting your windshield, you are following too closely.

bring him a loaf and two 'cuda's and he'd feed the whole world haha

Cry cry cry...if you are gonna drive, broken and cracked windshields happen...that's like crying about the fact that your tires will wear down....somebody get this idiot a kleenex...

Someone doesn't know what they're talking about!!!!! My o8 Dodge Cummins has one the cleanest emissions system in the industry. Absolutely no credibility on this evaluation.

an 08 dodge(yuck) cummins has one of the cleanest emissions...hold i have to stop laughing. is that what the salesman told you...hahahahaha.

I'm guessing that since Jesus went everywhere with 12 buddies, he'd drive a pair of suburbans.

Sorry, can resist. Um, I think they would be considered Enviromentalist, they walked wherever they traveled. gotta laugh!

an 08 dodge(yuck) cummins has one of the cleanest emissions...hold i have to stop laughing. is that what the salesman told you...hahahahaha.

this particular motor is so full of emissions crap that it literally chokes the engine down so bad that they run like complete hell compared to the older Cummins that didn't have egr and dpf's and all that crap that you greenie assholes had pushed through by the epa...a truck that has those parts removed will get 2x the fuel mileage and only emit a few more particles per mile...particles that unlike the particles emitted by the gas engine in your prius...will fall back down to earth

the suet that a un filtered deisel emits is terible and the new duramax has 397 hp and 765 ft lb of toruqe that blow the old shti away

Thats a new one on me! I never knew that diesels emitted beef fat! Should keep the birds happy anyway. Learn to spell Dum@$$!

the suet that a un filtered deisel emits is terible and the new duramax has 397 hp and 765 ft lb of toruqe that blow the old shti away

and could you really get by with a Dakota maybe?

If you drive anything with more than a 3.5 or so, and you dont NEED it for some commercial aplication, you are what is wrong with America, and no, dentist and realtors dont NEED to dive a Hummer (that they write off for me and you to pay for by they way.)! If you really want to see whats wrong with America just come to Southlake, Texas and watch the battle of the SUVs, its a riot!

i have a Cummins powered Dodge Ram that has an I6 5.9 liter and she gets around 25 mpg no matter how i drive it and i can pull up to my payload rating and still get 15...i'd love to see somethin w/ a 3.5 pull 15k pounds and get that...

its nice to see other ppl that understand the use of trucks and that they are not all gas guzzlers. I used to own a 98 nissan maxima and it got 22 mpg so good job on the truck and gas milage

its nice to see other ppl that understand the use of trucks and that they are not all gas guzzlers. I used to own a 98 nissan maxima and it got 22 mpg so good job on the truck and gas milage

I have a 10'raised 4x4 gas guzzling suburban,I drive alone most times,and I couldn't care less what others think..I can load up 8 buddies go anywhere impassable to most other vehicles to get to where the good hunting spots r..enuff said

I could give him a lift in my 8MPG 70 'Cuda. Prius? No thanks.

I can never pass this line up.
WWJDrive? Well since he was the son of a carpenter, I would have to say an F-450!

With a trailer for all those Makita tools?

I don't really care, you are all losers for caring about the world, If I where you I would get a life

tree huggers have a rotten record, all they have suceeded in doing is drive up prices and put a strangle hold on industry. why don"t we outlaw invironmentalist and the crock they are carrying.

I drive a fastttttttttttt sports car. Bad mileage. Thrill to drive. God Bless America!

Get on the autobahn, drive fast, blow your engine. Gaze at landscape at 120 mph. Focus on the road at 140mph. Ahhhhh, the speed and getting there fast, real fast. Going slow is dangerous. Going with the flow is exhilarating.

what a breath of fresh air! couldn't have said better myself!

The Autobahn's speed limit is expressed in kilometers per hour, NOT miles per hour. So if you're driving 100 kph, that would be only 62 mph.

First off, the autobahn has no speed limit. There are advisory speeds based on conditions and the are generally over 80 mph. We are, however, impressed that you know that Germany uses the metric system.

tired of the mexicans with thier large familes coming to the US going on welfare at the expense of americans and driving thier fricken suv paid for by american tax payers

Good comment......People are arrogant especially right here in the good ole US of A and they believe it is their right to have 6 kids and a Chevy Suburban to cart the little roaches all over town in. Too many humans ( 7.1 billion going to 10.5 billion in 39 yrs..) is totally reckless, unsustainable, dangerous, arrogant and apocaylptic in scope. This whole baby fever crap in the usa...and other countries is madness.

good coment mike 7.1 billion to 10 plus billion in 39 years so why dont you pass on witch mees one less stupid person we have to deal with. First off i have a suburban and a tahoe plus 5 kids so what does that make me. lets see a father who can aford to have 5 kids and 2 big vehicles. other then my wife who are u to criticize any one. as lond as i take care my business you can just shut your pie hole. what othere people do in there bedroom is really none of your business.

Those who post their anger about those who have families and live comfortably are generally alone for a reason.

Completly agree. Earth is overpopulated. If we would have 1/10 of population, the Oil will last 10 times longer. There is no argument with this. And if you see responses they all resort to insults.

The problem is with moral - you cannot eliminate 9/10 of population and it is hard to explain to the people not to have babies.

He is not that stupid and actually your Prius will consume more gas at high speed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk

He blessed us with inteligence to go fast. Use fossil fuel so we can get to the space age faster!! We learn through need. Not by living in the stone age. Next time you hear the loud muffler of a rev machine, get glad not sad!!

you are selfish, stupid and shortsighted. God BlessYou Not

you are overbearing elitist who's only god is the earth. Wake up and let people enjoy what they have earned. It would appear you are a public employee so you add little to the economy

you are overbearing elitist who's only god is the earth. Wake up and let people enjoy what they have earned. It would appear you are a public employee so you add little to the economy

Yes we are!!!!!

Being responsible for the children you have is the problem, if you are responsible for 6 you are an asset to the earth, too many are not even responsible for having one.

you are selfish, stupid and shortsighted. God BlessYou Not

Charles, please respond to this.. Need to know who you are. I have a relative with your name.. Thanks... twoulf..

You should live in China for a YEAR. That'll get you sober to the guzzler. Like going to rehab! Ha.

You must have been a lonely child. So you shoudnt talk about what you dont know.
Burt I understand , since you we're bred and not concieved from love.

What makes you think you should have the right to live?

If the planet is overpopulated then you need to eliminate yourself. (Suicide)

why should you get to live just because you got here before all the unborn, or ones that will be born?

The creator said to be fruitful, multiply, and fill the earth. - The earth is not full unless you live in New York City all your life.

Go take a drive through the midwest to western USA and you will see that the earth is NOT OVERPOPULATED...!!!!!!

News flash, there is no God and you're eating up all the food and gas.

you will be far less arrogant when you face him and at that point you won't be worried about food

i call it using my logic & reasoning, try it sometime, unless you're one of those narrow minded people easily influenced by people.

i drive a 97 dodge ram 2500 single cab/long bed 2wd w/ the Cummins 12 valve and it gets a hand calc'd 25 mpg whether i drive it 90 or 50...i'm pretty sure keepin my truck road worthy is a lot more environmentally responsible than buying a new Prius

You're defying physics by claiming that you can get the same MPG at 90 MPH or 50 MPH. Once you're in top gear, the energy to go faster has to come from somewhere, and wind drag increases dramatically at higher speeds. Anyone can lie on a forum like this.

I drive a 1993 BMW 325is. I can say with out a shadow of a doubt that I get 28mpg doing 50 through 90. So I would not be so quick to judge. It can happen, although I doubt it in a Dodge truck; but I will take him at face value on that.

You're propagating a myth based on a single study taken out of context by anti-conservation conservatives who are constantly looking for excuses to NOT conserve energy, which they think nature (or "God") owes them in infinite abundance.

Search for: "CNW Research Hummer Prius debunked" (no quotes)

The only articles that came up trying to debunk it were obviously partisan websites, including one from Toyota and one from a husband and wife that are admitted Prius lovers.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKTOyiKLARk&feature=youtube_gdata_player

C'mon Brad. You know this article is so left leaning it's a wonder if doesn't tip over.

You can't tell these people anything remember? Facts are just pesky things that get in the way and mean nothing to any of them.

I read a comment about some idiot who likes to upset Prius owners with his gas guzzling vechile and that makes it worth it. Well idiot I do not get upset for one and two I get the same satisfactionwhen i hit 60mpg. Oh yeah an added bonus pulling inot the gas staton next to a hummer and watching them pump 100 plus dollars into there tank and me pumping 6 bucks and hitting the road. I hate ignorance

If you hate ignorance so much, why don't you learn to spell?

I don't want a fuel efficient car. Try driving 4 hours with the wife and kids once a month to the in laws and those gas guzzlers are a small price to pay for comfort and sanity. I also haul firewood, mulch, kayaks and a host of other things, on a regular basis. No, a toyota Corolla will not do.

Your exactly correct. I own a 96 Sierra 2500 diesel pickup, and i've hauled all sorts of crazy heavy objects including 2000 lbs of scrap steel. Truck didn't break a sweat. Try that with one of those barbie doll "canyon" trucks.

I guarantee it won't turn out well.

Electric cars = coal powered cars. Include the inefficiencies of energy conversion and the resulting electric vehicle pollutes more than the original coal fired power plant. But nobody talks about that nugget of info...

we are all beeing sold a bill of goods and if you are not able to figure that out I FEEL Sorry for ya.

I live in America, Land of the free. If I want to drive a big SUV that sucks in the milage department, I will. I work hard for my money & I'll spend it on what I like & I like BIG Trucks that suck gas. When I start taking government handouts like most people in this country, then we can rethink the big cars.

Burning fossil fuels creates CO, that being Carbon Monoxide. Its is not CO2, Carbon Dioxide, which is created when we breathe.

You have a lot of nerve....."MOST people on government handouts'
Don't bruse your knuckles on your way out...

so whether we rethink or not depends on what you do.

And you got this info from where? Are you a real scientist? Or are you another one of those people that parrots the selective truth of the climate data rather than adhering to empirical method?

So you don't care what kind of planet you leave to your children/nieces/nephews etc., Sarah? Just watching out for number 1? What a healthy attitude!

Humans are killing planet earth for our comfort and enjoyment.

In less that 800 years there will be so much CO2 in the atmosphere that we will not be able to breathe it.

I'm pretty sure that no matter what condition the air is in, I won't be able to breathe it.

I remember when a suburban got 8, my old ford got 6. Gas mileage has really improved. The new suburban looks real nice, think I'll add that to my Christmas list. My little CRV has so little cargo space I have to make multiple trips to town for groceries and the like. First the greenies want our cars, next they will want to take away our kids, to create a better environment. Get out of your cubical and live life!

They already are going after our kids. Most of them believe that the earth can only sustain 1 billion people. Soon you will have to apply to have children, and if you have more than 1 you will have to sell them, or have an abortion. it's coming. It already happens in China.

Look up "human footprint" or "carrying capacity" before assuming that Earth owes a living to countless billions of people. We are already using about 1.3 Earth's worth of resource in a sustainable context. Cheap oil has created the illusion that unsustainable living is natural. The science doesn't jibe with Genesis 1:28 and other Creationist ego-trips about people being the center of life on Earth.

Go to Youtube and watch a video of Valcent Alga.

The CEO insists their system of growing alga for fuel could supply ALL the liquid fuel America needs.

If you see the value in this you will probably get angry after you are informed. If so, please start writing to your congresspeople and ask why they fund all sort of wasteful programs but not this.

The average family size in U.S. is 3.19 members, so most families have 2 or less kids. There are almost 2 million building and construction companies. There are roughly 250 million cars registered in the US, half of those are SUV's and Trucks. Where does the need for these huge vehicles exist based on this sample? The average family is not that large, and how often would they even be carting all four family members?

There are many families larger than 3 so they do need the space.

The average is at 3.19 because there are many single people or childless couples. I see a lot of families at the grocery store with four and five kids so they are out there.

Hydrogen is Better, and Renewable. I don't understand why they are pushing electric. it is the worst most bulky ineffecient (of the renewable techs) availble.

The big pollution source is still power plants to produce electricity. Both hydrogen and batteries use that electricity. We need to concentrate on pollution of those power plants. Until then, hydrogen or battery powered cars are just "planning ahead" to _enable_ the use of cleaner electricity _when it becomes available_.

You are required to charge your electric car far more than you would be required to fill up on a hydrogen powered car.

You can place batteries on a hydrogen full cell car. People who have built their own have also modified their houses to plug into their cars. After getting 3-4 hours of electricity from their vehicles, they have reported recieving money back from the power companies from the power being put back into the grid. You can go much further on hydrogen then electric. And that is why electric cars are not viable. Distance is the killer for it.

I'm skeptical that a battery with 93% efficiency exists today.

Yes, the portrait of a single mom grocery shopping in her SUV is certainly popular but in reality nearly everyone who buys a large heavy vehicle does so because:

> They use it for work
> They have a large family
> They tow a boat and/or trailer
> They live where the environment is too harsh for a small car

But that doesn't sustain moral outrage.

Work is justifiable. Large family - get two small car and some condoms. Rent boats and trailers at your vacation site. San Diego has really harsh weather which is why we have around 200 SUV's lined up every morning at the middle school - oh yeah, the moms are talking on their cell phones the whole time it takes to drive their fat, lazy kids six blocks.

There is no need to be so rude to everyone. Unfortunately for many of us a fuel efficient vehicle is just out of our price range. I have never seen an efficient vehicle that could haul my family of six plus pets and luggage with a trailer at 75 miles per hour for two days straight like our Suburban does at fourteen miles per gallon. Its been doing this off and on for 26 years. Show me a 26 year old efficient vehicle worth driving.

According to the EPA, the 1984 Honda Civic got 32 MPG in the city and 39 MPG on the highway. (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm). According to Edmunds, the 1982 "FE" model got 41 MPG in the city, 55 MPG on the highway (http://www.edmunds.com/honda/civic/history.html). These compete nicely for fule economy with today's hybrids.

I owned a Civic in the mid 1980s. It got good gas mileage, but not THAT good. These numbers are exaggerated.

Fuel Efficient Vehicles haven't been around for 26 years. And they do make Hybrids for the Larger vehicles now as well. Although, I think it would be best for you to not purchase one until they find somthing better. The amount you would save on gas versus the amount you would pay for a new vehicle, would take you 26 more years to recoup.

t, I suspect you either did not get your tank filled when you measured the fuel you burned, or that your arithmetic is off, or your honesty is suspect in reference to fuel mileage of your '84 Buick Skylark and Oldsmobile 98 Regency of unknown year model. NOBODY else ever actually got your reported mileage numbers with these vehicles.

I am confused. So basically conservative Republicans just troll this website leaving nasty comments on the articles? Have they nothing better to do?

does not automatically make someone a troll. or a republican for that matter. demonizing people that disagree with your opinion foolishness, but typical of arguments that really more on opinion than fact.

Get real, green-whacks! These trucks and vans don't just commute between ballet practice and NPR rallies. People who actually work and produce products for use and consumption need more that a Prius. Sure you see suburbanites driving Hummers but that is the price of having the larger system of production of wealth that your lives so safe and comfortable. Want a 3 whieel, 12 hp Euro-car? Move to Europe and submit the Sharia law.

Never cease to amaze me.

You left out Chrysler's and GM's small vehicles sold as cars -- 'tho they are technically trucks, allowing them to be polluting greater than card.

For a lot of these vehicles, the people who drive them are more cocerned with human/cargo capacity. To compare a Ford Transit to a GM(or Ford for that matter) heavy cargo van is ridiculous! Same goes for midsize pickups/suvs to their full size brothers.

Does this take into account the vegetarians who they themselves incresae carbon footprint with their own gaseous emissions?

The American car companies make the most gas hogs that people are likely to buy. The extremely expensive Italian and German cars will not be sold in numbers like the fat SUVs and the big pick up trucks made in the USA.

When they can sell me, at a comparable price, an electric pickup that has the range, jjpower and cargo capacity as my F 150 4x4 that takes no longer to recharge than it does to refill my gas tank, I'll be first in line!

Exactly. I'll buy an electric vehicle when it will carry as much as my current 1995 Blazer - four people and stuff, or two people and a lot of stuff - 350 miles at 70 MPH and be ready to do it all over again in 10 minutes, repeated indefinitely. Until then, it just won't do the job I need done, and buying it is worse than useless.

If you can afford it, drive it! Let poor people and Hollyweirdos save the environment!

So what? says the elitist jerk who thinks there are no reprocussions for his selfless attitude. When your decendants are choking on the smog your oversized, overpriced vehicle pumped out, and the hole in the ozone layer grows bigger and bigger....they will have you to thank.

Do you drive a car? If so, then you are contributing to pollution as well! So unless you're willing to give up your vehicle COMPLETELY and walk/bike everywhere you need to go, then you are no better than anyone else.

there will be something wrong with any effort to change driving habits. Probably drives a Hummer.OOps sorry, A chevy short wheel base trk. in disguise!