The mean dozen
GreenerCars.org recently released its ratings for model year 2011 vehicles. The website, which is part of the American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy (ACEEE), assigns a Green Score to vehicles based on their fuel efficiency. The organization recognizes the most eco-friendly vehicles in the Greenest Vehicles of 2011 list but also draws attention to poor performers via the Meanest Vehicles for the Environment in 2011 list. While companies want to be featured at the top of the greenest vehicles list, no one wants to be mentioned on the meanest list. (Text: Melissa Hincha-Ownby)
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Where's the Prius on your list? You dummies are only looking at operational phase of the vehicles. Even if the C02 lie was true, Hybrids are a total abomination to mamma gya. Full of rare earth metals that are brutally toxic to the environment, featuring radioactive waste among several other poisonous substances, makes gas only economy cars look like freshly planted trees next to a Prius.
If some one were to produce a vehicle that I could drive that, that I did not have to tout around 26 gallons of an explosive; which is sixteen times more powerful than dynamite. And still be able to tow my 30 foot travel trailer and not cost 100,000 to purchase, i would by one
Glad I've fnially found something I agree with!
I have been seeing Miles Per Gallon (MPG) being pluralized more and more in both television and print advertising lately. MPG is already plural (notice the 's' at the end of the word 'Miles'?). In our new language-butchering text happy world we are forgetting the basics with increasing momentum. Pluralizing MPG as "MPG's" is both grammatically and technically incorrect! Do modern schools teach the basics any more??
YOU ARE CORRECT I THOUGHT IS WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO STILL BELEVES IN PROPER USE OF WORDS .
I think whoever wrote this article did not do enough research. Take a look at the Toyota Prius. What impact do the batteries have on the environment? This car is one of the worst cars for the environment. When will society come to realize that battery hybrids are not the answer?
Battery hybrids might not be the answer-agreed. In fact, a natural gas powered car took the top of the greenest list this year and a hybrid wasn't even in the top three.
This article solely addresses 2011 vehicles and their fuel efficiency. If you look into the greenercars.org methodology for the list, you find: "Vehicle and battery weights are used as the basis for estimating manufacturing and disposal.... More
If you have the money to buy most of the cars you dont care about the environment
I own a 2009 Chevy Z71 2500 HD,it gets 10 MPG at best but I knew that it was'nt going to be good when I bought it. Now I only use it to tow my camper and my car trailer and I have drove it about 500 miles in four months because of the gas prices.I bought a 2007 Canyon for gas mileage and now I paying for the Z71 that I can't drive because of the MPG but I love the truck so maybe the gas prices will come down so I can drive it more. If your going to dance you have to pay the price.
obamas energy advisers said long ago they desired Americans to pay $7 to $8 @ gallon and these prices are being kept artificially high to force less driving on Americans! We could easily bring gas prices down considerably if the will of the people meant anything to obammi. These dictators are rich and will never be hurt by prices, they care nothing about working Americans!
I posted a comment yesterday that was removed by MNN. It was not offensive, nor contained obscene language. I merely pointed out in detail that it would take a person 4.5 years to just break even on a basic bare-bones Prius at $4/gallon. Not a great investment. Hmm, I guess the editors didn't like the math or couldn't comprehend it.
I also pointed out that my 2004 GMC Yukon XL has a bumper sticker that says "Doing My Part to Prevent The Upcoming Ice Age."
I guess MNN didn't like that.... More
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I have an H1, which is made in America, not Mexico or anywhere else. I also have BMW motorcycle so I can travel in the carpool lane, to save time. Also a Toyota truck for hauling smaller items....I have a car to fit whatever need I want...which basically turns out to saving time, which is money, as well as not having the engine run for 30mins to an hour longer while your sitting in traffic. My Toyota truck is 25 yrs old and still gets 23mpg, so why get rid of it? I have a full size 2009 and.... More
Mexico is in America....North America. The USA is not the only country on our continent. Just a clarification.
Enoviromental impact is not always reflected by how many MPG's a vehicle gets, but how the car is producted. Materials used, shipping methods, longevity of bateries, ect. So a few years ago Univ of Conn, did a study regarding the impact on earth the Hummer H2 had in comparison to the Prius. Prius has better Gas millage, but a 3 year replacement on Batteries, and production methods created more problems to the earths health then the H2. check out the findings on .... More
I well never let my kids in a car,thats very unsafe i dont think you under stand what happens to the human body in a tin can. what you read about these cars (Quote Throw away cars is, the steal they use is very think frame ok is different, but impact is horrable. I have an auto body next to my shop i have seen what happens to them and all cheap compact cars in an accident. i have even been on site were these cars have killed there drivers. the higher the safer. next is toyato does not disclose.... More
SPower :
RE: "..I well never let my kids in a car i ...." {sic}
In addition to the obvious ( can not type, spell or use the English Language}
It's a shame that you ever HAD any "children" at all. By the time they are old enough to escape your very-make-believe-world in which you've withdrawn, they'll be so badly-scared that it'll require years of intensive Therapy for them to become normal, productive Adults!
staying safe isn't just a matter of driving the biggest car (and these big cars are very harmful when they hit others). its a matter of driving safely...and being considerate.
Hey people in stead of prompting on this page heres the infor you need. may be if we all send how true feeling to these tree huggers may be theyl listen.American Council for an Energy-Efficient Economy
529 14th St, N.W. Suite 600
Washington, DC 20045
Phone: (202) 507-4000
Fax: (202) 429-2248
Email: greenercars@aceee.org
DIRECTIONS TO OUR OFFICE
Probably 90% + of the utility vehicles are driven by housewives running the errands, yuppies trying to be cool, or the best one, short guys with a complex.
I used to use these for work vehicles while I was in college. You can't beat them if you have a job to do. Sadly, though, most are driven by dweebs wanting to appear cool as they drive back and forth to work. How many times have you been cut off by some broad yakking on her cell phone driving one of these?
Here in Bham Al the crazy loony bitches with a cell ph and an attitude drive them
I drive a truck/get cut off and pulled in front of about 10 times a day
Look who ever did the research for got to mention that they have never been in theses trucks or heavy suv,s in there lives.
I have a v10 ford f 250. I use it to make money. I use it to haul all the materials to these pencil pushers houses and buildings cause they dont know how to use a tool. i use the crew cab to carry my employees as well as my family. so let me spell it out easier . if i drove a prissy little car that runs on some stupid battery i would never bring tools, materials.... More
To SPower, I'm sure its nice to have your vehicle to make a living, that's understandable
Although, it seems you should have spent some of the money earned, doing what ever it is you do, on a few writing classes...
Sure, you can run a power tool but you surely can't spell or string a decent sentence together...
Roberto....thanks for your comment. I agree with you. After reading SPower I was worn out. Heck of an effort trying to understand what she had written.
Great article idiots. Did anyone notice that all of these vehicles are either utility vehicles or ultra high-end supercars. The first group are driven by the people who put food on your tables deliver your equipment, and generally make you simple lives even easier. The second group are more pieces of art than commuter cars, the absolute cutting edge of technology and performance. When was the last time you saw a Bugatti with 75000 miles on it? I wager to bet that your battery acid, lead, and.... More
my car has a rotary engine one of the worst offenders hands down! i feel bad when i scream past a prius or civic hybrid. i will own a hybrid or electric vehicle when they stop looking stupid and gain some real performance
My Avalanche is getting about 13.5 city and 17 highway with the active fuel management system. I bought it fully knowing what the milage would be. However i can't pull my 25' camper with a Volt or Prius. So what you chose to drive is a choise we all have to make.
Horse and buggy!!!!!! and shovel (for the poop) be like the Amish, just get a freaking horse. or a oxen to pull your wagon. and don't forget your buggy whip.....
I love my Ford truck extended cab 4x4 .....I don't really care about gas mileage when it comes from getting to where I am going with the cargo I have with me....I don't stop to "plug in" when I want power he is there and living in Michigan there has been no amount of snow I can't get through....
i drive a gmc yukon xl denali v8 and a ford f150 saftey is the most important thing about a car i dont care what those greenies say im protecting my family in those cars
blames it on cows! not really coz i love my steaks; however, they produce massive amount of methane gas when they fart. far worst than the highest output v12's. if only we can recycle cow's farts, then we dont have to worry about being dependent on fossil fuel. smile people! I love my v8 ( not the juice ) i even have v8 on my motorcycle. Live a life! I hate prius! until they start to fly, then i'll start liking it. sorry folks! you cant get me to ride a scooter either. Good day ladies and.... More
I see too many posts that just continue to point fingers. Regardless of what drive we can all do little things that add up and have less impact on our pocket book and the environment. I See people in electric cars all the time zooming around town like they are doing us all a favor.I also see people driving big SUV's that are conscious about their driving habits. It is up to us to make positive changes not the vehicle we drive. Also, if we can all reduce-Reuse-then Recycle we can save ourselves.... More
I totally agree. Different needs pretty much dictate what we drive. I think most people try to be environmentally responsible when possible, but its not so much what we drive, but the thinking behind what we drive. If you live in the city and only had to commute a short bit to work, a good economy car, hybrid, or electric is the way to, better yet public transportation if available. I rode the subway for 10 days on a trip to NYC. It was great; took me anywhere I needed to go. However,.... More
I too, agree with "Shift". I think it is a matter of personal needs and consideration. I drive an 02 Nissan Pathfinder and couldn't be happier with it. I've had it since 03 and it has been completely dependable and affords me the room to carry cargo and grandchildren when needed and is also tall enough not to tweak my knees and hips when getting in and out. Granted, it only gets 19-20mpg, but its consistant and I try to drive with other drivers and the environment in mind. I keep my speed.... More
I put 9 in my suburban when going on vacation and still get 17 MPG or 153MPG per person.
I GET 56 MILES PER MPG AND I HAVE MORE MONEY THAN YOU ON MY PRIUS
This article is at best shabby in it's research, or at worst an intentional fiction. What each of these vehicles is classified on is actually fuel economy, not total environmental impact. It is absolutely incorrect to state that simply because a vehicle gets lower mpg that it is an environmentally worse vehicle over all. As sited by a previous poster, the Prius has a huge negative environmental impact, however that impact is in the production rather than the usage of the vehicle. Research done.... More
Agree 100% except it's not just misleading it's deception, it's a blatant lie.
Also for the comments regarding the "batteries are recycled", we already know this. As previously mentioned it is the manufacturing process of the batteries that hurts the planet. Which means of course every time the battery is recycled the manufacturing process repeats. You can't compare the typical car or truck battery to the mammoth sized electric car batteries.
Am 17 years old i have a 1979 chevy k10 pick up with a 383 stroker i get 15 mpgs i work hard 2 jobs to pay for gas and price of livein plus school if i diint have my truck i wouldint be able to get to school or work snow get 4 1/2 feet deep in town i love my truck i pull cars out all the time god bless
Really?? The 383 hemi was a heck of a good engine but it was made by dodge not gmc As for driving in over 52 inches of snow on the road maybe with a snowmobile but not with a 4x4 even with oversized tires maybe if the snow was powder and could dust up driving in it
Ain't no such thing! Besides which the young man was referring to a 350 chevy stroker motor, which is usually called an SBC383 to aviod confusion(although most motorheads know the difference!)
Hey Dean, cut the boy some slack. His truck is 32 years old and very likely has been repowered at some point in its life. As for the snow, he said 4 feet of snow falls in town, not that he was driving through that depth all the time. Where I live we get well over five feet of snow on a regular basis. I have a three quarter ton truck that I frequently have to use to "drift bust" in the mornings before the plows run by. No my Honda Civic wont make it on days like that when the driveways.... More
and yes a 383 is a mopar but some have put them in others maybe he should have said that...NOW for plowing 52in or 4 and 1/2 feet of snow. NO! sorry i do snow runs and with 2feet or 24in your diff gets packed with snow and you stop plus its really heavy not going to happen please we have enugh bull on here so please dont lie your not getting a date thanks but no thanks
Yes Mopar made a 383. What the man typed was a 383 Stroker which is a very well known Chevy engine. For all the super intelligent car guys here I am surprised that it is unknown to you. A Chevy 383 is a 350 Chevy bored and stroked (different crank w\ longer connecting rods).
I'm the hypocritical greenies worse nightmare. I own a full size truck to pull my V8 powered ski boat and haul around my 4 kids, wife and dogs. I also hunt, and fish and don't recycle cans. I also listen to Limbaugh and Hannity.
If anyone can say a prius or any hybrid car has less of an environmental impact they where fed lead paint as a child. They must not have any idea how many chemicals just the batteries contain,plus the resources it takes to make a new car,plus when the relatively untested battery dies and gets thrown out. I have a 69 Cadillac hardtop sedan deville, and a 66 289 2v mustang as my toy cars and drive a 96 Mazda millenia everyday. The Cadillac gets 8 mpg maybe but I hardly drive it,the mustang I.... More
The Toyota Prius, whose batteries contain toxic chemicals that far exceed any other vehicle.
Where do those used up batteries go??
Toyota's "green" car is a hypocryte!
I love the age old argument/joke of "green cars". For those of you that are under this great misconception that the big 3 (GM, Ford, and Chrysler) are American cars any more, dream on. They may be assembled mostly in America but fix your own stuff and read all the MADE IN MEXICO or MADE IN CANADA tags. Unless of course you mean North American made vehicles. And those of you that think Honda, Toyota, or Kia are American made, no dice. Assembled in America with Asia parts. Don't get me.... More
I could add simply that the green car is for the most part an illusion. On that note two things come to mind 1.) You can't blame a person for trying to do his\her part when it comes to our environment. 2.) An old adage, A fool and his money will soon be parted.
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