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Amtrak promises high-speed trains in Midwest after successful test run
Passenger train traveled 111 mph on part of a route between Chicago and St. Louis.

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John Platt
Mon, Oct 22 2012 at 10:51 AM
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High-speed train travel has come to the Midwest and it promises to transform transportation options in that part of the country. An Amtrak passenger train hit a regional record of 111 miles per hour on Oct. 19 in a test run that proves the viability of super-fast trains in the area.
 
The five-car, two-engine Amtrak passenger train hit 111 mph — a notch above the target of 110 mph — during its route between Chicago and St. Louis. The train normally travels 79 mph or slower. Although the high-speed portion of the journey only lasted about five minutes, it proved the speeds were possible.
 
Amtrak said the train will regularly travel at the newly proven speed on a 15-mile stretch between the cities of Dwight and Pontiac by this Thanksgiving and that the remainder of the route will be sped up by the year 2015, according to Bloomberg Businessweek.
 
The test run was attended by a number of political dignitaries, including Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn and U.S. Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, who said, "Four years ago we were nowhere. Illinois and the country was a wasteland when it came to high-speed rail. This is a dream come true today." The federal government contributed $1.2 billion in stimulus money to make this possible.
 
Chicago Tribune reporter Jon Hilkevitch said the super-fast train traveled "like a jetliner slicing through calm air." Joseph Szabo, administrator of the Federal Railroad Administration, told Hilkevitch that the high speeds are made possible by a combination of new rails and smart engines that allow it to anticipate the speeds it will need to travel more than a mile in advance. "That locomotive can sense whether there is any mass that is violating the safe zone inside the gates," Szabo said. "If it senses a car, a human or anything, it shuts the train down or at least gets it below 20 mph depending on top-end speed."
 
Environmentalists praised the test run, saying high-speed rails create jobs and reduce reliance on auto and air travel, reducing carbon emissions in the process. Once the full route between Chicago and St. Louis is ready by 2015, the high-speed train will complete its journey in four and a half hours, an hour less than it takes today. It currently takes the same amount of time to drive between the two cities as it does to take the train, so the high-speed route could eventually be an attractive option for travelers.
 
Others expressed doubt that this particular route will generate enough income to make the high-speed rails worth the investment. "We're yoking ourselves to trains that will obligate taxpayers to provide billions of dollars in future subsidies," Kristina Rasmussen, vice president of the Illinois Policy Institute, a free enterprise-focused think tank, told Bloomberg.
 
Interestingly, the route between Chicago and St. Louis was once much faster. Coal-powered trains traveled as fast as 124 mph 70 years ago, according to the Chicago Tribune.
 
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tomdoug11 Feb 10 2013 at 9:03 PM

What a joke,, high speed rail is over 200 kph. Thailand is building 3 high speed lines . China to Bangkok will have a 200kph line for freight & passengers & then the line will be extended to K.L. & Singapore.
New York still has storm rubbish hanging around the streets. Power still up poles, 100 year old tech. Time to stop talking & do some work!!

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Moirty Nov 07 2012 at 6:57 PM

Only in America would we define a 'clean train' as one that travels at only 124 miles an hour and is still powed by fossil fuels. I suppose it's a step...but it's the step of a toddler.

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janeyre Nov 05 2012 at 4:37 PM

I travel via train. Sounds good to me... Now expand the locations... I need to travel to Maryland and Los Angeles...

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Stephen Karlson Oct 31 2012 at 9:25 PM

That 124 mph steam train is a reference to The Milwaukee Road's Hiawatha, in Wisconsin or possibly in northeastern Illinois, not to a steam train on the St. Louis line. All the same, there used to be some pretty fast trains radiating out of Chicago, including four different routes to St. Louis, three different routes to St. Paul, and two different routes to Green Bay and to Detroit.

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Mark Oct 30 2012 at 12:53 PM

Interesting. I live in Indianapolis and Amtrak has stated that it is cutting its service from Indianapolis to Chicago unless it can get more tax-payer funding. How in the hell are they going to pay for this?

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Tarc Oct 29 2012 at 11:31 PM

After traveling from MI to Chicago again this summer, the train has cinched itself as my favorite form of travel. It's as fast as the Detroit to Chicago flight, and drop you off downtown - and it's a hundred times more pleasant. I'd rather take the train than drive, and it's cheaper (and no parking fees).

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peterconnell612 Oct 29 2012 at 11:24 PM
I approve many complainers here but US has to walk before it can run Tart up existing track on the cheap $1.5bn is not a lot 110mph by 22015 - 300miles due north/south for many, the alternative is greyhound - maybe they should code share out of st louis ie - break the back of the trip no luggage restricions ~ - unlike air Given many US trains can double deck shipping containers, the carriages & passenger numbers could be vast ie - economic, even at knockdown prices - same model as airlines -
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fill the seats - better than empty - 4k folks on one train - u dont need a dining car - same as greyhound dont - its just 3 hrs for gods sake - eat at each end of the journey acelas carry a pathetic passenger load, albeit in luxury Frankly If USA can do ~11o MPH average nth/sth - texas to chicago w/ slower branch lines there is a good market air isnt perfect - delays, indignities, cramped, shuttle, petty scams, weather many would prefer longer & reliable than gamble on faster maybe the biggest infrastructure issue is level crossings?
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BINMAN Oct 29 2012 at 11:10 AM

If you want to know what is behind the high speed rails, look at Agenda 21. This is to connect the population centers when the US is resettled in the name of resource sustainability.

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michael Oct 28 2012 at 3:18 AM

why in hell would anyone go from chicago to where is that.... ah, st. louis? surely there are other more attractive, and important places to go to and from. maybe not in the mid=west, but

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Guest Nov 07 2012 at 10:31 PM

perhaps if a person lived among the 2.5 million of St. Louis Metro area, and wanted to visit family in the 10 million-metro area of Chicago, I could see a reason to travel via train. But hell, no one lives near family anymore, right?

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Tarc Oct 29 2012 at 11:34 PM

Frankly, Chicago beats the pants off NYC and LA, and heck, most of the major cities out there. I guess we've got a know-nothing coast snob.

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Gloriousbastrd Oct 28 2012 at 2:31 AM

They should install more of them

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Mikie Oct 26 2012 at 1:20 PM

Who exacly are these people in such a hurry to get to St. Louis?

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Tarc Oct 29 2012 at 11:34 PM

The people that actually run the country and feed it.

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Jimmy Oct 25 2012 at 2:19 PM

I come from a long line of railroaders and fondly remember the stories of my Grandfathers, both of whom had careers with the PRR. Exceeding 100mph was an almost daily occurance, especialy on the "Southwind" from Chicago to Miami and with two "K-4s" pulling twelve to fourteen passenger cars! My Grandpa's Kline and Hudson were two of those engineers.

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Catch22 Oct 25 2012 at 12:40 PM

The American rail system is light years behind the japanese or germans where trains travel at 250-300 MPH. I just can't wait to see our train go 110 MPH. It will only take 1 cow to wreck the whole system. The japanese have it figured out. maybe we should let them create our rail system.

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Jim Oct 25 2012 at 12:29 PM

Too bad none of this is happening in Wisconsin where we still travel by cow.

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observer1 Oct 25 2012 at 12:11 PM
It's 300 miles and there is a 15 mile stretch where it can go 111mph, until 2015? Wow! And when you get there, is there transportation other than a taxi? No wonder people drive! If you have a decent modern car it costs the same (try at the Amtrak site for the cost). Now, in Germany, where you train at 155mph-AND there are busses and subways everywhere, AND a 300 mile trip costs DOUBLE at least, well I have a choice of about 15 trains a day, not the 4 Amtrak has. I think Amtrak needs to step up. Good
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RAC Nov 05 2012 at 7:02 PM
Your comparison (often made by others also) between the US and any European country is Apples & Watermelons - the size of the US and its AREA is massive compared to the area served by European Rail (Germany is <138k sq. miles - smaller than Montana >147k sq. miles)...and the system is fully federally funded - a political challenge here. Population centers served are much more densely distributed in Europe and right-of-way alignment has been less hindered by "Property Rights", so dearly
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held and defended here, so the lines are shorter between destinations - more efficient and suited to "Hi-Speed" use. Trains, with good infrastructure (also Government owned/maintained) can beat airline times and costs for most intercity trips...and gasoline prices (hence auto costs) are much higher there. The culture in Europe is much more historically invested in rail travel, less "individual" in taste/need and more tolerant of adjusting to an "availability" schedule. The US rails (and Amtrak) are in a "chicken/egg" situation. The taxpayer is reluctant to fund "unproductive, unneeded" transport...but the business cannot be generated, acquired, relied upon, even reliably measured until the service infrastructure is established reliably funded and available...and, as Amtrak knows, every turn of National and State Government threatens uncertainties, cut-backs, de-funding - while other competitive modes receive continuing, increasing and popular subsidies. I'm NOT a Politician, administrator, expert of any kind - but this stuff seems clearly evident. All these things are "problems" that likely can be overcome...but the big "Killer" is the political will to take on a massive (more so because of decades of de-construction and delay since WWII). Oh, and a large portion of Europe's trains (especially the Hi-Speed) are electric-powerd from catenary - MORE infrastructure cost, but fossil-fuel-efficient. I'm a retired railroader, sop never expect to see (with the current political/economic situation), let alone utilize a regular, modern rail transport system in my lifetime. If we won't pay for it (in many ways) for everybody, it won't get done. Passenger rail will not be a "for-profit" business any time soon - especially if "the Private Sector", when a route or segment begins to pay for itself, demands to be "Let in" on the business the taxpayer has created, built and developed...leaving the subsidy supported lines to the political will and Government's uncertain backing. We (the US) aren't comparable to Europe and Japan, in physical or societal parameters...such arguments are specious and counterproductive. See the challenges and accept or overcome them if you wish to reach the goal.
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Bjorn Nov 07 2012 at 9:18 AM
Actually France is about as densely populated as Ohio (which has almost no trains). Railroads in France and other countries were originally built to much higher standards than most American routes. The intercity rail lines have no level crossings of roads, they are nearly all double tracked with fewer curves. This made higher speeds much easier to accomplish. In the fifties the French could plainly see that the increasing popularity of auto and air travel was having a bad effect on their passenger
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trains. They then decided to upgrade their train system eventually developing the renowned high speed TGV system and much faster trains on other routes. The slower trains in France tend to run at 100 miles per hour or 120 miles per hour. The French were able to build a good passenger rail system because they have been investing in it for the last 50 years. In contrast to this, until very recently little investment has been made in the US rail system. It will take a long time to build a comprehensive useful network. The Illinois program is at a good start on building what will be needed in the near future.
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Tarc Oct 29 2012 at 11:37 PM

In short, yes, there is as good of transportation in Chicago as there is in NYC. St. Louis is smaller, but yes - obviously. Are you seriously that goofy?

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chuck Oct 25 2012 at 11:41 AM

If we want 'high-speed' train service again...maybe we should go back to coal-fired trains. Then the coal industry would switch 180 degrees and politically push for faster trains.

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Tarc Oct 29 2012 at 11:39 PM

Perhaps the Repugs need to stop putting the constant axe to commuter rail.

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