Never change your oil again

Installing an oil refiner may let car owners eliminate oil changes forever.

By Melissa Hincha-OwnbyWed, Jun 09 2010 at 1:50 PM EST
 131

Photo: Moto@Club4AG/Flickr
With news of the BP oil spill in the Gulf making headlines on a daily basis, oil is on everyone’s minds. What may not be on your mind is an oil change for your car. Every 3,000 miles you dutifully go to the local service center and get your oil changed — but what if you never had to change your oil again? That would be nice.
 
  
Earn Points
What's this?
 
What if you could skip future oil changes and increase your fuel economy? That would be even better. A product called the Electro-Lube Oil Refiner may help you eliminate oil changes forever and improve your vehicle’s fuel efficiency at the same time.
 
Although you may have never heard of the Electro-Lube Oil Refiner, it has been used for decades. The product was launched in the 1970s and has been used in tugboats and merchant marine ships for years. However, the product can be used in commercial vehicles, cars, delivery vans, and just about anything else that uses oil.
 
The product is attached to the engine where it then cleans the oil for continual use. The refiner removes solid particles, prevents the accumulation of water in the oil, and neutralizes acid. This leads to a longer engine life and increased fuel efficiency, with autos utilizing the refiner realizing a 3 to 4 percent improvement in fuel economy.
 
Although this product can help consumers save money, it can have an even more noticeable impact when integrated into a corporate fleet. The reduction in fuel consumption, oil consumption, and used motor oil waste can be significant over the life of the vehicle. When you compound these reductions by the number of vehicles in a fleet, the savings can be significant.
 
The average price is around $600, plus shipping, taxes, fittings and hoses. It also needs filter repacks, which are changed every 25,000 miles or 500 hours. Currently, Electro-Lube provides installation services only on fleet vehicles. AG Van & Truck Equipment company has partnered with Electro-Lube Green to help get the refiner installed in more commercial fleets and to bring the product to the streets of America. The product is available with installation instructions through AG Van at 800-638-8818.
 
CLOSE link:

Comments

Follow this conversation View:

anonymous
Tom 06/19/2011 08:03 AM

Auto manufacturers oil change requirement remains the same during the warranty period. Your vehicle needs to be out of warranty to extend oil change periods beyond their requirement.

anonymous
thomas 03/25/2011 01:03 AM

Allot of people who have posted are missing the point. This product is actually not available for personal vehicles. This product is only currently available for heavy machinery, and large deisel engine vehicles. Given the amount of miles or hours of operation these are generally in use this Is a great product and pays for itself within the first year.

For those trying to show that its not a good product to put on your ten year old Honda that has 200k miles on it, no kidding this.... More

anonymous
Ricky 03/21/2011 01:26 AM

My daily driver is an '88 Escort with a 1.9L 4 cylinder and over the life of the car the average oil change has probably been in the 5K-6K mile range on conventional motor oil and now gets an oil change every 10K miles. I've been doing the 10K mile change interval for about the last 40K miles on an engine with 514K miles and never been rebuilt.

As for people who say oil viscosity changes with miles driven, that's true, but in most cases the viscosity doesn't go down it becomes higher. Do.... More

anonymous
Cindy 03/11/2011 15:08 PM

I have a couple questions/statements. First as far as saving the planet, why do we no longer care enough about our families to want to do what is best for the planet so our grandkid's grandkids still have a safe healthy place to live? We are all too self centered and me me these days. Oil will run out and who is to say that it isn't actually something that keeps the earth moving in the first place, global warming aside. It is in the ground for a reason. Probably should stay there. Maybe.... More

anonymous
gwe1121 07/15/2010 13:20 PM

I am 66 years of age and not a trained mechanic. I can afford only used vehicles and have been doing so for the last fourty-five years. Nearly every one of my engines including ford 460's, chrysler 2.5 four cylinders and chevy 3lt. six cylinders have given me in excess of three hundred thousand miles or more. My fredquency of oil changes? About once a year or when my oil light comes on. I dare say that the oil companies don't like to hear that. If they wouldn,t be afraid to sound foolish like.... More

anonymous
1qaz 03/18/2011 23:39 PM

I'm with you!

anonymous
Ty Today 15:23 PM

I'm going to estimate around $1,000 for this to be bought and installed. Labor could be higher depending on the vehicle. You shouldn't pay more than $50 per synthetic oil change. When does this thing pay itself off? Between 60k and 100k miles it will start to be worth it. Unfortunately most people sell their vehicles before 100k. That combined with wear and tear and everything else it's pointless.

If this ever got to the point of most vehicles on the road having them it would hurt US jobs.... More

anonymous
reeb z blatt Today 09:15 AM

How to solve BP oil spill type problems?
Burn more fuel!
Americans get in their cars and head right into another
mess known as the I40 rock slide in western NC.
Friday's July 2nd traffic jam was 20 MILES long as
fools rode right into the rock slide jam.
Traffic was a parking lot on I40.
DUH!!

anonymous
sleeper365 Today 08:07 AM

Lately we are considering our planets welfare almost as much as our comfort. Over the past ten years the advances in wind energy technology have begun to have a slight impact on our dependency on oil.We have a machine that now requires a little less energ to build than it can produce over its lifetime. But the damages to our polar caps from the road salt we are dumping in the oceans every winter is still being referred to as GLOBAL WARMING. Try to remember that this was a gaseous fireball.... More

anonymous
Ian Today 03:51 AM

Oil degrades and breaks down, thats why you have to change it. Even though it hepls slow acid build up in the oil its still going to degrade, this will ruin engines over time and its not even worth considering.

anonymous
sleeper365 Today 08:33 AM

oil degrades predominantly from acid buildup caused by the short trip. Heated motors can burn most of the acids away, but warmed oils collect them.Using Lucas oil additive, along with a 2 qt commercial oil filter (used in trucking industry) that can easily be installed on many motors, along with busing,or biking for short trips, will have you as well as your motor here for many extra years of life.

anonymous
StudeMan 07/03/2010 20:00 PM

I am a freak.......for the last 44 yrs I have driven a V8 Studebaker with well over 125k miles. I have always changed the oil and filter at one thousand mile intervals. In the long run frequent oil changes means no engine problems.

anonymous
lou sisbarro 07/03/2010 16:17 PM

Hay here is a thought!
How do we get congress to get there hands of there duffs and
come up a five year program to eliminate oil from the fuel equation.
President Kennedy issued a challenge to put a man on the moon
in ten years, and we did!, which proves anything is possible.
Of course if the Oil Companies were not controlling Congress.
We as a people get wh at we deserve by not making our Government work for the new fuels and better mileage on cars.More

anonymous
Joey Today 01:40 AM

Since jfk every president has called for ending our dependence on oil. If it were reasonably possible it would be a done deal. Seriously every president since jfk has promoted green technology and energy production to no avail. Jon stewert did a great skit on this too! Lol!

anonymous
me Today 11:32 AM

It is much cheaper and more profitable to the multi-billion dollar oil companies to slip a little something into the the right hands to get all our alternative resources overlooked. It is unreasonable to think that the oil companies are going to give up robbing us of multi-million dollars of "PURE PROFIT" without doing anything they can to prevent it taking from their "BIG FAT WALLETS" at our (the us working men and women) expense. No matter who the president is, or who is in congress, if.... More

anonymous
lou sisbarro 07/03/2010 16:17 PM

Hay here is a thought!
How do we get congress to get there hands of there duffs and
come up a five year program to eliminate oil from the fuel equation.
President Kennedy issued a challenge to put a man on the moon
in ten years, and we did!, which proves anything is possible.
Of course if the Oil Companies were not controlling Congress.
We as a people get wh at we deserve by not making our Government work for the new fuels and better mileage on cars.More

anonymous
Phil Today 19:47 PM

How do we get congress to help with the oil prices etc? It's simple, stop allowing the oil companies stuffing money in their pockets. Make it a federal crime to allow an oil company or any company affilitated with them to give money or anything else to congressmen.

anonymous
R. Oliver 07/03/2010 16:48 PM

Fuel isn't the only thing oil is used for. look around you everything plastic, everything wrapped, most everything in everyones life around them would not be possible without good ole Mother Earth's Crude. You want energy alternatives?, fine, but don't expect them in 5 years, or 10, or 20, or even a comparative source to replace oil for at least a century. Our dependency on oil is real Lou, and it won't go away. We would be able to colonize Mars (Had that moron everyone calls the president.... More

anonymous
macg 07/03/2010 17:57 PM

you know we all know everyone has their own opinon however opinons are like assholes if you dont like the way the our country is being directed geet off your sorry fat *** and do something better yet just move to some other 3rd world country there you could really have something to cry about what a idot you are

anonymous
Matt 07/03/2010 17:53 PM

It's not the country coming to a standstill that concerns me, because I can promise you that it will happen if we as a world do not change our ways. Only it won't just be the country coming to a stand still, it will be the world when green house gasses trap too much heat into the atmosphere causing the polar caps to melt and sea levels to rise world wide. Oil is like a cigarette, everyone is happily addicted untill they find out they only have 3 months left to live.

anonymous
Joey Today 01:47 AM

Why is it assumed the seas will rise as the ice caps melt...trapped air and evaporation will surely offset much wouldn't it? and I'm glad the ice age is over and the glaciers have retreated farm production and world health conditions have improved a hundred fold or more as a result.

anonymous
rosalind Today 02:25 AM

the sea is rising and some island and even the Indians in alaska are moving inland because their village will be under water soon like in 2 years-do some research and you will understand this more clearly

anonymous
pundock 07/03/2010 16:15 PM

I have a o1 toyota prerunner 3.4 v6 with 181k on her. i started using synthetic after 30k and have NO problems changing the oil and filter every 5k plus i lube the u-joints with a moly blend grease. plus i have changed the rear end lube with a synthetic. at 60k(it says 90k) i have the timing belt and water pump changed(it's behind the timing belt)
I'm curious about the ads i've seen about puting a magnetic sleeve around the oil filter, suppose to trap any metal particles from the oil. .... More

anonymous
Bruce Choy 07/03/2010 23:14 PM

what i have done is place a small magnet that fits into the opening of my spin on oil filter and at the next change remove it and you will see fine particles of magnetic material drawn to it. what you address probably is a series of magnets on the outside of the filter can??

anonymous
David Today 09:53 AM

Get a oil pan drain plug with a magnet built in the tip. I am at 270,000 on a 99 Grand Prix GTP 297 awhp Mobil 1 EP/ K&N filter. Changed when the car says too (7-9000) avg. Seeps out 1 qt between changes and the pan plug mag has very little stuck to it each chage

anonymous
Doug 07/03/2010 14:34 PM

If you have used regular oil for a long time you should change to synthetic gradually not suddenly. The oil film doesn't break down which is why they sell used motor oil.It gets contaminated and additives wear out but can be replaced..Regular oil contaminates itself through "shearing" caused by the different sized molecules hitting together.In synthetic they are all the same size and don't do this. In 1981 a mechanic said I'd better quit using Quaker State (regular oil) or it would gum up the.... More

anonymous
IMBigboy 07/03/2010 14:20 PM

I have a 2008 Suzuki XLZ and according to the manual and also the automatic notification system in the vehicle, I change my oil once a year or when the system notifies me. My oil usually lasts about 9000 miles with normal city and highway driving and this is APPROVED by my GM/SUZUKI Service dealer in Port Richey FLORIDA.

anonymous
Deane682006 07/03/2010 12:47 PM

What about Oil breakdown also? The viscosity of oil changes the older it is. So what does this system do to combat this problem?

anonymous
Steve 07/03/2010 13:38 PM

Oil viscosity breakdown only occurs if the oil is overheated. As long as your cooling system is functioning and/or you're not driving in really extreme conditions (towing a trailer int he desert uphill on a 110° day), you'll never get the oil hot enough to damage it.

anonymous
Steve in Mass 07/03/2010 12:44 PM

I have to agree with you on the sludge build-up issue. Older mineral based (pre-synthetics) sludge was a big problem. Thats why 1000 mile oil changes on earlier cars like my 60 Chevy were necessary. ((God, I miss that car.) But with the advent of synthetics and closer machine tolerances, sludge is not that much of an issue anymore. Wait too long to change it, and it will be an issue. I've taken apart Porsche air cooled and water-cooled engines, re: rebuild, and even the worst cases had.... More

anonymous
tlworkroom 07/03/2010 12:35 PM

So you spend $600 on this thing, and it cycles oil thru it, and removes oil impurities. It also says it has filter "repack's that you change out. Isn't that just what a normal oil change does?? Does the addition of this unit replace the regular oil filter or is it necessary to keep using it? If so, then it seems you're paying twice for the same service.

anonymous
John Bagwell 07/03/2010 21:33 PM

Every 25k you change the filter packings man.Thats way better than changing every 3k or 5k.The benefits are reducing labor costs and eliminating having to deplete oil supply for your butt transporter.I would be willing to pay the same price on a yearly average to do this.No brainer.

anonymous
Ken 07/03/2010 12:34 PM

I've used this product since day one for years now. All you do is add to existing oil and extend oil changes up to 7 months! It works!!

anonymous
Valentina 07/03/2010 14:02 PM

I would LOVE to get this installed in my Saturn ION! Do you know where I could have this done as this is a personal not fleet vehicle? Did you find the savings out weighted the initial costs + repack filters?

anonymous
R. Oliver 07/03/2010 16:56 PM

Why not use Amsoil systhetic and change your oil every 25,000 miles or after one year, which ever happens first?

anonymous
Bummed on Amsoil Today 11:36 AM

I used Amsoil in my 99 astro since day one. Changed it once a year. It was 11yrs old and only 66K on it ( I babyed it) when the oil pressure went to ZERO. The engine had spun a cam bearing and clogged the passages to the mains. To the crusher it went. My new van probably won't see amsoil. I'll just buy a decent oil and change it more often. I like the K&N oil filter with it's hex wrench fitting on the end for easy on and off.

anonymous
Rob 09/18/2010 16:33 PM

The problem was the Astro - very common for them to just decide to **** the bed, throw a rod or slip a bearing no matter what oil you use.

anonymous
Dale Today 15:15 PM

That may be true. However, my 97 F150 has 175000, once a year oil and filter changes for me. Oh, Before your oil pressure went to ZERO you should have pulled the dip stick at least every other tank of gas. that is just one of many reasons for oil consumtion. Most likely you will buy oil purchased from off shore. it will only be as good as the additives in it. 3 to 5000 changes, at twice the price of AMSOIL.

anonymous
tlworkroom 07/03/2010 12:31 PM

That was my opinion about this article...it would cost way more to purchase and install than to merely get extra oil changes, especially if you merely go every 5K, which is easy.
However, I've noticed that when my oil---regular or synthetic--gets dirtier and closer to changing time, I actually get better gas mileage. Not sure why. I've always felt that the oil needs time to "break in", but not 2K+ miles.
I have recently used synthetics in my cars and have found the engine to run.... More

anonymous
Ken 07/03/2010 12:36 PM

i couldn't agree with you more!! It is one big ploy to make more money from us hard working Americans!

anonymous
WAYNE L. GRANGER JR. 07/03/2010 12:12 PM

THE LAST THREE TRUCKS I OWNED, I REBUILT THE MOTORS IN THEM,AND GOT WELL OVER , 220,000 MILES ON THEM BY KEEPING THE OIL CHANGED [2500- 3000 MILES], AND KEEPED THEM TUNED.LIKE A [CLEAN, AIR FILTER],[PROPER AIR IN TIRES,] [SPARK PLUG AND WIRES], [DISTRUBUTER CAP AND ROTOR] ON OLDER MODELS,...YOU TAKE CARE OF IT....,AND IT WILL TAKE CARE OF YOU!

anonymous
dude 07/03/2010 12:08 PM

if you don't change your oil but once every 20k.i just bet the inside of your engine is a 1/4 inch deep in sludge.
i guess none of y'all every took an engine apart

anonymous
Dale Today 15:22 PM

AMSOIL - race car on dirt track, 6 races per night, 6 nights between oil changes. in side looks like it did from engine builder. NO WEAR.and CLEAN. 93 F150 at 100,000 value covers where carmal colored and NO BUILD UP!

anonymous
RC 07/03/2010 11:10 AM

The owners manual on Honda CRV 2004 model USA. Change oil every 10,000 miles. I think Honda would know what they are talking about.

anonymous
Thomas Today 08:02 AM

I had a 1985 Toyota 4Runner, Mfg. reccomended oil change every 10,000 miles.

anonymous
brian 07/03/2010 16:11 PM

if you believe this then you should not drive. Your vehicle creates friction and friction creates heat! if you got 10k on the oil is doesnt have the viscosity that it was manufactured with and it is like using water! this is a ploy to hurt the engine in the long run( namely as soon as the warranty goes out) did you think of that. it is a way for them to knowingly hurt your engine by telling you not to change the oil but every 10k. Check that oil at 5k and see if it is caramel color or if its.... More

anonymous
Joey Today 02:03 AM

I have 07 e350 and my interval is 13000 on oil and will be 20000 with synthetic when i switch on my next change. Do u think Mercedes is trying to burn me or do I trust the makers of such a fine performing machine?

anonymous
DRAL229 07/03/2010 12:40 PM

...bet if you check your definitions of "driving conditions" in the service interval part of your owner's manual you'll find that you fall under "severe operating conditions"...might want to change that oil a bit more often...

anonymous
shirley sweet 07/03/2010 11:03 AM

I have a 2000 escort zx2 S/R and a 1995 taurus SHO with 99.234.and
98.889 miles. They look and run like brand new. [ oil change every 3 to 6
thousand miles] The MKS my husband just got has already had a oil change at 5000 miles[ dealer recommended 7,500]. My husband tells me, treat them right and they will serve you just fine. We sold a 91 ford
festiva with 103,000 miles and it ran and looked like new.

anonymous
DRAL229 07/03/2010 12:45 PM

I have a '98 Taurus wagon with a 3.0 V6 and over 230,000 miles...runs like a top, doesn't use or leak oil...serviced every 3000 miles...'02 Maza MPV same engine with 156,000 same way...oil is the life blood of an engine...

Add your comment

Sign in with one of these accounts or just add your comment below.
Used only for emailed comments and will not be displayed with your post
Notify me with an email when other people comment on this article.
The posting of advertisement, profanity or personal attacks is prohibited.
Click here to review our Terms of Use

ADVERTISEMENT

TOP MEMBERSJoin Now
Mercedes-Benz is thinking green and driving changes that help put us all on... more >
Mercedes-Benz helps keep the planet green with breakthrough technologies... more >
By teaming up a breakthrough in electric power with an advanced gasoline... more >
Mercedes-Benz makes emission-free mobility viable with advanced fuel cell... more >
Buying green can produce significant benefits but so can small changes in... more >

ADVERTISEMENT