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The truth about getting the flu shot
To most medical professionals, the advantages of the flu vaccine far outweigh any risks. But other professionals feel completely the opposite.

By

Judd Handler
Mon, Oct 15 2012 at 11:22 AM
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What's more scary: Getting the flu or getting a flu shot? (Photo: Dmitry Lobanov/

According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, on average 5 to 20 percent of the population in the U.S. gets the flu each year. More than 200,000 people are hospitalized from seasonal flu-related complications, and anywhere from a few thousand to 50,000 people die each year from flu.
 
The best way to prevent getting the flu, says the CDC, is by getting a seasonal flu vaccination each year. But do the benefits of getting the flu shot far outweigh the risks? Can potential lethal illnesses manifest years later in life, a direct result from getting yearly flu shots?
 
The truth about getting the flu vaccine is difficult to ascertain, with opinions about its safety differing widely depending on which medical professional you ask.
 
The flu shot does not give you the flu, most of the time
One thing both proponents and opponents of the flu shot agree on is that there are a few different types of flu vaccines, and sometimes, adverse side effects do occur from the shot.
 
Currently, there are four types of flu vaccines on the market:
  • A standard flu shot
  • A high-dose flu shot for those 65 and older
  • An intradermal-administered shot for those who are needle-phobic
  • A nasal spray

Contrary to what many people believe, the first three vaccines listed above do not contain the live flu virus.
 
“The vaccine is taken from two of the hundreds of different proteins that compose an influenza virus,” says the Mayo Clinic and Infectious Disease Society of America's Dr. Greg Poland. “Taking merely two surface proteins off the virus does not mean it’s live; there’s no organism there … it’s not possible to cause infection or disease with it … the flu shot does not give you the flu,” adds Poland.
 
As for the nasal spray, which does contain live flu viruses, Dr. Dan Harper, who is against vaccinations of all kinds, is especially leery of this methodology.
 
“You have 100 million viruses sprayed up the nose, along with other things like MSG (monosodium glutamate) and sugar, which causes inflammation. And since the virus also contains egg [proteins], you run the risk of introducing an avian retrovirus, which can cause encephalitis in humans.
 
“And so here you are spraying this up into your nose, just a few millimeters from the brain with MSG traveling across the blood-brain barrier, causing potential damage to neurotransmitters,” says Harper, who is based Solana Beach, Calif.
 
Does the government conclude that flu shots are 100 percent safe and effective?
 
No, but close to it, though adverse side effects have been documented in peer-reviewed medical journals. For example, a study in Human and Experimental Toxicology reported that there were 590 fetal-loss reports per 1 million pregnant women vaccinated (or 1 per 1,695) during the 2009-2010 flu season (generally regarded as October-March, though flu symptoms can occur any time of the year). The adverse events were tracked by the appropriately named Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS, database.
 
In a review of vaccines conducted by researchers at the Institute of Biosecurity at St. Louis University, the co-authors concluded, “Vaccination remains a critical intervention during pandemics, but current production technology requires several months to develop sufficient vaccine to meet anticipated worldwide need…. Vaccines for use … during an epidemic are in development but … logistical obstacles to timely distribution exist [though] intensive research is underway to identify a universal vaccine.”
 
The Institutes of Medicine released a consensus report last year, which concluded that despite 135 vaccine adverse events in the study, few health problems are caused by or clearly associated with vaccines, including the flu shot.
 
According to most peer-reviewed research, the chances of encountering problems are statistically minimal; however, possible adverse effects from flu vaccine documented in medical literature include:
  • Febrile seizure
  • Narcolepsy
  • Asthma
  • Guillain-Barré syndrome
 
Humane reasons to get the flu shot
Some medical professionals, such as Dr. Elizabeth Baorto, division director of Pediatric Infectious Disease at Goryeb Children’s Hospital in Morristown, N.J., strongly believe that with rare exception — such as someone with an egg allergy — everybody 6 months and older should get a flu shot every year.
 
“Protecting oneself is an altruistic act. By getting vaccinated, you not only protect yourself, but you protect those around you as well,” says Baorto. “We are fortunate that we have a cheap and effective way of protecting ourselves with the flu vaccine.”
 
Will the flu shot protect you from a superbug pandemic outburst?
 
Not according to the aforementioned ardent vaccine opponent Harper (who is on the board of the nonprofit, Price-Pottenger Nutrition Foundation), who himself contracted polio in 1952, was paralyzed for seven years, and has seven children, none of whom have ever been vaccinated.
 
Harper thinks the flu vaccine lacks efficacy because the CDC has to guess which strain of influenza will be dominant in a particular year and it doesn't always guess correctly.
 
“[The CDC] only choose three to five strains of influenza A out of 250-plus strains, and they take only two or three influenza B strains out of 75-100 that are out there at any one time. If they don’t guess the right one, you’re going to get sick. You’re putting your faith in the CDC’s ability to guess the one that might be a pandemic.”
 
So, is it in your best interest to get the flu vaccine, regardless if a superbug is headed our way?
 
Poland unequivocally thinks so. “Which risk would you take?” he asks: “One in a million of a side effect or a one in 10,000 risk being hospitalized or dying. Flu-related illnesses cost the U.S. $90 billion a year, or almost one percent of GDP,” adds Poland.
 
But in contrast, Harper believes the risks of the flu shot far outweigh any benefit.
 
He claims that formaldehyde is an ingredient in the common flu shot and is a known carcinogen. “Another ingredient in the flu shot, thimerosal, contains mercury, which is known to impair neurological and immune systems. There are detergents, antibiotics, chemicals and allergens like polysorbate-80 that causes infertility,” adds Harper, along with other ingredients he deems unsafe for human consumption.
 
Indeed, the CDC does list some of these ingredients on its website. But the CDC claims, that at least in the case of thimerosal, “There is no evidence of harm caused by the small amounts of thimerosal in flu vaccine.”
 
Still, Harper is not convinced: “Someone who gets vaccinated could say, ‘Well the flu didn’t kill me.’ But when you’re sitting there with Alzheimer’s, ALS, MS or you’re watching your kid develop seizures or become autistic you’re going to kick yourself in the butt for allowing your child or you yourself receiving it. It’s frightening to me the stuff they put in the vaccine. These diseases, at least in part, are because of vaccines,” concludes Harper.
 
Do you think the flu vaccine is safe? Join the conversation in the comment section below.
 
Judd Handler is a health writer in Encinitas, Calif., and the author of "Living Healthy: 10 Steps."
 
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anonymous
guest Jan 15 2013 at 4:38 AM

is anyone else concerned that there are 2 highly poisonous agents )even if in small amounts) in the ingredients? Mercury and formaldehyde?? The ONLY time I have ever had the flu in my 34 years was after getting a flu shot!!

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Tea Jan 14 2013 at 5:35 PM

I personally know someone that almost died from the flu shot itself. She had an allergic reaction to it. If you're healthy, imo it's not worth the risk. My favorite quote " one often reaches his destiny on the path he takes to avoid it "

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anonymous
guest Jan 14 2013 at 1:50 PM

I will not get the flu shot just like NSAIDS were thought to be safe with people with heart problems. and years later they find it causes all sorts of problems. No Thanks I'll stick to the natural stuff.

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Kali Solei Jan 14 2013 at 12:15 PM

I don't get the shots and I don't get the flu. My 11 yr old has had a couple and the h1n1 spray one year, against my wishes and I worry all the time about future side affects. She won't be getting anymore. We lived with her grand parents one year during flu season, everyone but us got shots and we're the only 2 that didn't end up sick in bed. We eat well, take vitamins and make our own herbal teas and cold remedies and it works for us.

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anonymous
Guest Jan 13 2013 at 1:58 PM

Anyone else think there's something a little "off" about someone who contracted a deadly childhood disease, was paralyzed by it for 7 years, and then still chose not to protect his own children from contracting it? Is this even true?

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Fortyniners Feb 03 2013 at 7:05 PM
I don't see anything "off". The guy said he contracted polio in 1952. That is when Salk first invented the vaccine, It had to be changed because it was giving people polio! Check this out: "In 1952, Salk was the first to develop a successful vaccine using a mixture of the three types of virus, grown in monkey kidney cultures. He developed a process using formalin, a chemical that inactivated the whole virus. What followed was massive testing of the vaccine in clinical trials in
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the United States and parts of Canada, begun in 1954. The scope of the trials was unprecedented in medical history. The results were dramatic. Cases of polio fell spectacularly in the vaccinated test groups. In 1955, the government quickly granted permission for the vaccine to be distributed to the children of our country. But, there was a problem with the original Salk vaccine. The vaccine actually induced 260 cases of poliomyelitis, including 10 deaths. " www.accessexcellence.org/AE/AEC/CC/polio.php No wonder he didn't want his kids to be vaccinated....
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Wistone Jan 11 2013 at 4:27 PM

This is a highly irresponsible article. On average 30,000 Americans die each year from the flu. It WILL be more this year.

Mr. Harper is NOT a medical expert, merely a layman who makes money spreading information that could kill you. His claims about toxicity are not backed up by any science. He is a complete fraud.

Harper is putting YOUR life at risk. Giving medical advice without having a physician's credentials should be a criminal offense.

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Guest Jan 25 2013 at 7:51 PM
As reported by Elizabeth Weise in today's USA Today (Jan. 25, 2013, "Flu Prevalent in 49 States, But Leveling Off"): "One indicator doctors look at is the number of children who die each year from the flu, the only national death statistics which the CDC keeps for influenza. This year, flu has already killed 37 children, whereas last year the entire season's toll was 34 children" (see para. 4). FYI, it was 122 the year before. Apparently nobody knows how many ADULTS
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die from the flu each year. For adults, the MMWR tracks only Pneumonia and Influenza-Related Mortality without separating out one or the other. But we've all been told that children and the elderly are most at-risk, so the elderly are apparently taking the hit because the number of child deaths isn't likely to rise above a few hundred. Doesn't quite stand to reason. As for Dr. Harper, it is easy to verify that toxic reactions to these vaccines ARE experienced by a number of people by searching the government's own VAERS database (http://vaers.hhs.gov/index). Repeating this "30,000 die" statistic is forgivable, due to the CDC constantly stating it, but is itself a somewhat irresponsible statement.
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Guest Jan 25 2013 at 7:02 PM

Dr Dan Harper is a physician, you can google him. I am also a physician and agree with all the info that is quoted by Dr. Harper. More disease processes, especially auto-immune diseases, have emerged since over-vaccination started in the 80's. If you don't think that increased vaccine propaganda isn't about the money...you are deaf, blind, and dumb. You might as well get all those vaccines so you can add cancer, MS and Alzheimer's to your medical chart.

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ROB Jan 17 2013 at 12:06 AM

Study whats in the flu shot, compere it to what us solders went through in THE 90'S not good

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Bob Jan 13 2013 at 9:00 AM

You are being irresponsible. The vaccines are safe. Did you not learn any thing about "science" when you got your degree? If you or any of your unvaccinated family contract disease you will SPREAD it anyone you come in contact with. What did your extensive research involve? Checking out conspiracy theory websites?

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Guest Jan 25 2013 at 7:16 PM

If vaccines do what you think they do...then a vaccinated person won't get the disease from an unvaccinated person. So don't worry about us non-vaccinated folk.

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lisa Jan 24 2013 at 10:23 AM

To all the gov robots go on and stick chemical poisons into yours and your family healthy bodies..good luck....wanna live without there poisons...drink 1tsp tumeric powder cup of lowfat milk a dash of cinnamon dash of nutmeg dash of cayenne pepper honey to taste mmmboil this and drink a cup a day at flu season. its delicious I been doing this years never had the flu taking this lil miracle flu remedy all natural.

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Guest Jan 15 2013 at 9:32 AM
Wow...this very post is irresponsible...mercury in and of itself is a HAZARDOUS material, and even a small team is suppose to have a HAZMAT team come in for clean up. Yet you want people to believe that physically INJECTING mercury into your bloodstream(along with formaldehyde and half a dozen other chemicals and synthetics) is somehow okay? Your skin is a barrier that keeps most harmful things out, but mercury in small quantities on even the skin can cause serious illness, yet injecting it into
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your blood directly is safe?? Right...
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Max Jan 23 2013 at 8:05 AM

You eat fish right? Well my dear you eat mercury as well. We are talking about micro dosage not chemical spills.

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Guest Jan 25 2013 at 8:01 PM
Ha ha, no we are not! The average flu vaccine contains 25 micrograms, and keep in mind you shoot that directly into your bloodstream! Using the standards set for methyl mercury consumption - the kind that's in fish - an average 130-pound person getting the flu shot would exceed the daily limit by more than four times. A 22-pound baby would get more than 25 times the amount of mercury considered safe. And fish mercury is in your intestinal tract where at least some MIGHT be filtered out by
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Guest Jan 27 2013 at 6:55 PM

It would be so refeshing if people would just check their facts before they write. Ethyl mercury in small amounts only is what may be in vaccines that contain thimerosol . Methyl mercury, which may be found in fish is more hazardous than ethyl mercury and they are not comparable. It's amazing to me how people can believe and spread misinformation when there is no evidence to support them but an overwhelming amount of evidence proving them wrong.

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Guest Jan 25 2013 at 10:12 PM

And of course you are only supposed to eat that daily limit of fish a maximum of twice per week!

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Philip Jan 14 2013 at 1:31 PM
Irresponsibility is blindly getting shot up with government waste. Be corralled like sheep if you wish. Population control of the weak and ignorant is a good thing. Let me know how you and your family are in 10 years. I will do the same. There are no other explanations as to why 'we' are getting worse off in the health areas than are others in poorer countries. Cancer, autism, allergies, asthma, etc... What causes the rise? New science? Percentages keep going up, yet, technology is supposed to be
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eradicating it.
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Guest Jan 13 2013 at 3:25 PM

how can they SPREAD IT, if u all have been vaccinated?

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mama bear Jan 11 2013 at 3:20 PM

religious exemption is also an alternative

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MH Jan 11 2013 at 12:43 PM

At 32 I can count how many times I've been sick in my lifetime so if it isn't broke don't fix it. Last year I received the flu shot because I was caring for someone who was immune-compromised and I saw the reasoning in doing so. Aside from that, isn't it better to keep foreign substances out of your system if you are a healthy adult?

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blaze_pascal Jan 10 2013 at 10:29 PM

I think the government is only interested about the mass statistics and costs in the short term without regard to the long term effect to the individuals. Then you have the mass media promoting the stuff? Sorry, I don't trust the mass media. Is more and more propaganda by the day.

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Guest Jan 10 2013 at 10:13 PM
I received the flu shot 3 times in my life. The first time, I was a teenager & after 3 days, I got really sick. The doc's all said, "It can't be the flu shot, It's been three days. You don't get sick from the flu shot.." I tired it again in my 20's & 3 days later, I ended up in the E.R. & my vitals crashed & the nurse told me I almost died, but they had no idea why & that it could not have been the flu shot bcz 3 days had already passed. I entered
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nursing school in my 30's and after an intense amount of pressure, decided one last time to try it again and 3 days later I ended up in the E.R. & almost died. I was again told it couldn't be the flu shot. Finally, I wised up & looked at the ingredients. I'm thinking it was maybe the formaldehyde-mercury-vaginal spermicide mix that was injected in with the dead virus that got me. Lesson learned: don't listen blindly to doctors, do your own research first.
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Back2Eden Jan 10 2013 at 11:15 PM

I could not agree more!

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