Advice | Community | State Reports | Videos | Photos | Blogs
Join | Login
Thursday, March 18, 2010
Earth Matters Lifestyle Technology Business Transportation Home Food Family
  • Green News Roundup
  • Our Bloggers
  • MNN TV
  • Community
  • State Reports
  • Videos
  • Photos
  • Climate Change
  • Wilderness & Resources
  • Energy
  • Politics
  • Translating Uncle Sam
  • Cars
  • Planes, trains, bikes
  • Shipping
  • Green Office
  • Finance
  • Green Jobs
  • Building, Products, Supplies
  • Research & Innovations
  • Computers
  • Gadgets & Electronics
  • Cooking & Recipes
  • Farms & Gardens
  • Markets & Groceries
  • Dining Out
  • Beer
  • Wine & Spirits
  • Building & Remodeling
  • Interior & Design
  • Gardening & Landscaping
  • Household Products
  • Recycling
  • Beauty & Fashion
  • Books
  • Ecollywood
  • Health & Well-being
  • My Green Day
  • Travel
  • Pets & Animals
  • Baby
  • Education & Activities
  • Holiday
MNN.COM > MNN BLOGGERS > Jim Motavalli's Blog

Jim Motavalli

Batteries for electric vehicles could still be very expensive in 2020

Economies of scale may not be able to work magic with the high cost of battery packs. If they're $12,000 now, they might be $8,000 in 2020, consultants say.
Mon, Jan 11 2010 at 10:48 AM EST
Read more: BATTERY TECHNOLOGY, ELECTRIC VEHICLES, FINANCIAL CRISIS

DODGE'S CIRCUIT: The high cost of plugging in. (Photo: Jim Motavalli)
 
The general assumption with electric cars is that “economies of scale” will bring down the cost of batteries, and thus make them more affordable. After all, when battery packs cost the company $10,000 to $15,000, it’s hard to sell the EV for less than $30,000.
 
  • Comments
  • EMAIL
  • Bookmark and Share
  • Facebook Facebook
  • Stumble Stumble
  • Tweet Tweet
  • Digg Digg

Related Links
  • Weatherization: Energy efficiency hits home
  • Sneak preview: Chevrolet Volt
  • Sanyo sets up solar parking for electric bikes
  • Japan targets global electric car standard
  • Trojan malware lurks inside Energizer Duo battery charger
The idea with economies of scale is that as companies build more battery vehicles, the cost of the packs will come down dramatically. But a new Boston Consulting Group report says that isn’t likely — at least in the near term. The firm thinks that car companies will still be paying $8,000 for relatively small 20-kilowatt-hour packs in 2020, and that their target of $250 per kilowatt is impractical. Right now, batteries cost between $1,000 and $1,200 per kilowatt.
 
According to Xavier Mosquet, the Detroit-based leader of Boston Consulting Group’s global automotive practice, $400 per kilowatt is more likely. And since about half of battery costs are fixed — not sensitive to quantity discounts — he said huge breakthroughs are unlikely without radical changes in materials.
 
High prices like that make it harder for EVs to compete with gas cars on cost. According to Mosquet, oil would have to go to $350 a barrel (it’s now around $82) for payback in three years.
 
Things aren’t quite as dire as that appears. Automakers have begun to lop $7,500 off the prices they quote for their cars because that’s the amount of federal tax credit available when you buy an EV. With the tax credit, EVs pay for themselves in three years with oil at $100 a barrel. That’s not too far from where we are now.
 
The problem, Mosquet says, is that we’re talking about EVs being 10 to 20 percent of the car population. Will the U.S. government continue to provide that large a credit over that many vehicles?
 
Remember, even though it’s a bad year, we still moved more than 10 million cars, and 20 percent of that is 2 million. So we’re talking $15 billion a year to maintain the subsidy. The incentive is currently capped at 200,000 per manufacturer, so it would have to be extended dramatically — and continue for many years into the future. By contrast, a federal subsidy on hybrid cars was capped at 60,000 per manufacturer, so it’s already all-but-disappeared for popular makes.
 
Despite all these hurdles, Boston Consulting still predicts that 26 percent of new cars sold in 2020 in the major developed markets (China, Japan, the U.S., and Western Europe) — 14 million vehicles in total — will have electric or hybrid powertrains. Hybrids will be the biggest part of that mix at 11 million. Only 1.5 million will be fully electric, the company said. Meanwhile, the electric battery market will reach $25 billion. “The burgeoning market will be about triple the size of today’s entire lithium-ion battery market for consumer applications such as laptop computers and cell phones,” says Mosquet.
 
Contrary to other more expansive visions, Boston Consulting says battery cars in 2020 may be concentrated — used as part of commercial fleets and as commuter cars.
  • Comments
  • Link
  • EMAIL
  • Bookmark and Share
  • RSS
  • Stumble Stumble
  • Tweet Tweet
CLOSE link:
The opinions expressed by MNN Bloggers and those providing comments are theirs alone, and do not reflect the opinions of MNN.com. While we have reviewed their content to make sure it complies with our Terms and Conditions, MNN is not responsible for the accuracy of any of their information.
« Previous
Fast and furious: Extreme driving at the cutting edge
   Next »
Less glitter, more green at the Detroit Auto Show

Comments(1)

  • ALL COMMENTS
  • READERS' SELECTIONS
  • POST A COMMENT
Sort by:
Posted By Martti PItkanen - Tue, Jan 12 2010 at 5:20 PM EST

How long does a Li-ion battery last

Besides battery pack price will remain high, they have to be replaced, read: bought again, within 2-3 years.
Besides costs incurred are of fixed type = raw materials, they will come mostly from China. If all goes as well.

  • reply

Add your comment

You can’t fool Mother Nature
This question is for testing whether you are a human visitor and to prevent automated spam submissions.
Image CAPTCHA

ADVERTISEMENT

About Jim Motavalli

New York Times contributor blogs about green transportation.

Jim's RSS Jim's profile

From our sponsors

  • Recycling is No Longer Optional
  • Nutrition: Making a Good Dog Great
  • Quiz: Test Your Recycling Knowledge
  • 50 Money Saving Tips for Your Home
  • Taking Action on Climate Change
  • More Beer, Less Water
  • How We Made Our Car Run on Grease
  • Organic Grapes Make Better Wine
  • The Business Case for Sustainability

Mother Nature. Delivered.

MNN's weekly newsletter sent straight to your inbox.
Follow us on Twitter Fan us on Facebook

JIM'S RECENT POSTS

EVERYTHING YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT GREEN TRANSPORTATION
  • Five myths about electric cars
  • Toyota's showdown: The company is calling the runaway Prius owner's bluff
  • Porsche 918 Spyder offers 718 horsepower, zero to 62 in 3.2 seconds, and 78 mpg
  • Read Jim's Blog
+ add this to my site


Quick Links

  • Earth Matters
  • Transportation
  • Business
  • Technology
  • Food
  • Home
  • Lifestyle
  • Family

 

  • Advice
  • Community
  • State Reports
  • Videos
  • Photos
  • Blogs

MNN Tools

  • About us
  • Advisory Board
  • Press
  • Sitemap
  • Privacy
  • Terms of service
  • Contact us

All About MNN

  • Join MNN
  • Newsletters
  • RSS
  • Eco-glossary
  • Widgets
  • MNN Contests
  • MNN Lists
  • MNN Mobile

 

Copyright © 2010 MNN Holdings, LLC. All Rights Reserved. Website by GLICK INTERACTIVE | Powered by COLOCUBE
 
SPONSORS